4-12 wish list (Merged)

mmaruda · #1 02-15-2012, 07:37 PM

I think this is the point where some mods could be allowed to the official release. The sounds and effects should be a priority here - UP3 has some nice sounds and HSFX uses the awesome flyby mod, which is the best sounds I've ever heard in a sim. As for effects, the Plutonium package is pretty much the best and most realistic thing out there, with intermittent fire, wind affecting smokes and many more. Plus they're not very system taxing if at all. Anyway the spiralling 2d strings of smoke need to go.

One thing I would like to see is a look at the La-5s and 7s as well as the later Yaks - these planes are just too good. I know the official charts depict them as awesome, but in reality they had many problems due to poor production quality, often failures and bad conditions for the pilot (50 degrees C in the cockpit cooked pilots). The old IL-2 had it right as a 190 could easily own a La-7 at high altitude, now it's the other way around.

FenbeiduO · #2 02-16-2012, 03:50 AM

One thing:We can see in game,when a p-47,fw-190,il-2(some armored plane) get hit----->like fireworks ----bullets were bounced out slowly.Could it be changed in update?

IceFire · #3 02-16-2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaruda

I think this is the point where some mods could be allowed to the official release. The sounds and effects should be a priority here - UP3 has some nice sounds and HSFX uses the awesome flyby mod, which is the best sounds I've ever heard in a sim. As for effects, the Plutonium package is pretty much the best and most realistic thing out there, with intermittent fire, wind affecting smokes and many more. Plus they're not very system taxing if at all. Anyway the spiralling 2d strings of smoke need to go.

One thing I would like to see is a look at the La-5s and 7s as well as the later Yaks - these planes are just too good. I know the official charts depict them as awesome, but in reality they had many problems due to poor production quality, often failures and bad conditions for the pilot (50 degrees C in the cockpit cooked pilots). The old IL-2 had it right as a 190 could easily own a La-7 at high altitude, now it's the other way around.

What changes do you propose and to which aircraft and based on what test information? The La-5 has three versions represented in-game (+1 if you consider the La-7 as part of the La-5 lineage which it is mostly) and the Yak has 17 (+1 if we include the jet based Yak-15).

csThor · #4 02-16-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaruda

I think this is the point where some mods could be allowed to the official release. The sounds and effects should be a priority here - UP3 has some nice sounds and HSFX uses the awesome flyby mod, which is the best sounds I've ever heard in a sim. As for effects, the Plutonium package is pretty much the best and most realistic thing out there, with intermittent fire, wind affecting smokes and many more. Plus they're not very system taxing if at all. Anyway the spiralling 2d strings of smoke need to go.

DT will absolutely not take any sound samples from "somewhere" and plug them in simply for the fact that there may be a potential for a copyright infringement lurking in the background. What an individual does on his PC is his own problem, but DT has contractual obligations to 1C and has to do things by the book. Just to make that absolutely clear.

And as for the effects - I'm not the one to judge them from a technical POV but I don't think they follow official guidelines and limits so they'd have to be reworked if not redone from scratch to fit the limits DT works with.

Fafnir_6 · #5 02-16-2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by csThor

DT will absolutely not take any sound samples from "somewhere" and plug them in simply for the fact that there may be a potential for a copyright infringement lurking in the background. What an individual does on his PC is his own problem, but DT has contractual obligations to 1C and has to do things by the book. Just to make that absolutely clear.

And as for the effects - I'm not the one to judge them from a technical POV but I don't think they follow official guidelines and limits so they'd have to be reworked if not redone from scratch to fit the limits DT works with.

Could a toggle for "3rd Party Sounds" be added to the sound settings, perhaps with a disclaimer stating something like "By enabling this, you (the user) take full responsibility for copyright infringement in the use of 3rd party sound samples"? When enabled, this setting could make the IL-2 sound engine look to a special user-installed directory for alternative sound samples. DT would not make an alternative sound scheme (my understanding is that they don't have much expertise in sound engineering anyways). Any alternative sound samples would be provided by the user and in conjunction with the disclaimer, transfer all responsibility for copyright infringement to the user rather than DT/1C/Maddox. This would allow the user the freedom to pick the sound scheme of their choice and absolve 1C/Maddox of any legal responsibility that way. I think this is the only way to make the whole IL-2 community happy with sounds.

Just a thought,

Fafnir_6

swiss · #6 02-16-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fafnir_6

Could a toggle for "3rd Party Sounds" be added to the sound settings, perhaps with a disclaimer stating something like "By enabling this, you (the user) take full responsibility for copyright infringement in the use of 3rd party sound samples"? When enabled, this setting could make the IL-2 sound engine look to a special user-installed directory for alternative sound samples. DT would not make an alternative sound scheme (my understanding is that they don't have much expertise in sound engineering anyways). Any alternative sound samples would be provided by the user and in conjunction with the disclaimer, transfer all responsibility for copyright infringement to the user rather than DT/1C/Maddox. This would allow the user the freedom to pick the sound scheme of their choice and absolve 1C/Maddox of any legal responsibility that way. I think this is the only way to make the whole IL-2 community happy with sounds.

Just a thought,

Fafnir_6

No.
Why?
Because you would enable you to turn off your own engine sound - which would lead to the sonar problem-> You'd be flying a glider and hear any enemy planes approaching you from behind.