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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-11-2012, 01:53 AM
king1hw king1hw is offline
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Robo, Please list your publications own by you that are pilots manuals on the Merlin II and III production and list the fuels tested since the Battle of France where most RAF Hurricanes were being tested at 12lbs boost instead of 6.25 WHICH IS A JOKE. Most if not all front line fighter air bases received 100 octane fuel. Douglas Bader Biography wrote about the main issues as well as many RAf fighter pilots documented the configuration.

You come on here and post no actual documentation owned by you proving that everything you say is right about the engine power plants in the spitfire MKIa and Hurricane. Can you agree that the Spit MkIa is a joke and that major fixes in both allied and axis planes need fixed.

Again Post your scanned in data that you have purchased to prove to us you are not full of hot air and that the only fuel produced in Britain was 87 and that this was the only fuel available and no planes in the historical record of the BoB did not reach 12lbs boost and that the LW won the war because it had the superior aircraft. So I guess your the only one supplying 1c with your data which I have never seen.

Since Forgotten battles we have had these issues and the allowing of 25lb spit on servers with that game and everyone WHINEDDDD!

So same BS! So just give us all the possible variants for both LW and RAF and allow the servers to design the WAR.

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Old 02-11-2012, 02:28 AM
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Thumbs up Good to see a Ju88A-4

I am very pleased to see a Ju88A-4, keeping up this aircraft's progression line within the sim.

The Ju88A-4 was the Luftwaffes defintive Junkers bomber during WWII with increased wingspan, heavier defensive armament and improved armour protection. It was extensively
used in all theatres. (e.g. 'The Med' )
Hopefully this aircraft's progression line will continue with minimum modelling changes to produce a Ju88C-6a anti-shipping dayfighter and a Ju88C-6b nightfighter with solid nose armament. Perhaps later a Ju88A-17 torpedo bomber.

Although I am not crazy about manning anti-aircraft guns in the sim, I can see a strategic land warfare gameplay starting as an alternative scenario, for those of us interested.

Hopefully you are keeping the best aircraft releases to last - a Bf109F-2 would be exciting to see?

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Old 02-11-2012, 03:02 AM
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The following, in bold type, are squadrons and the date for 100 octane fuel useage. Info came from mostly pilots combat reports.

The Aug and Sept dates don't necessarily mean this was the first use of 100 octane fuel but the first reference date I found on 100 octane fuel use.

Please add to the list if you have any other references of 100 octane use.

Hurricane Squadrons

No. 1 (Cawnpore) Squadron - May 1940
No. 3 Squadron - May 1940
No. 17 Squadron - May 1940
* No. 32 Squadron
No. 43 (China-British) Squadron - June 1940
* No. 46 (Uganda) Squadron
No. 56 (Punjab) Squadron - May 1940
No. 73 Squadron - May 1940
No. 79 (Madras Presidency) Squadron - May 1940
No. 85 Squadron - May 1940
No. 87 (United Provinces) Squadron - May 1940
* No. 111 Squadron
No. 145 Squadron July 1940
No. 151 Squadron - May 1940
* No. 213 (Ceylon) Squadron
* No. 229 Squadron
* No. 232 Squadron
* No. 238 Squadron
* No. 242 (Canadian) Squadron
* No. 245 (Northern Rhodesia) Squadron
No. 249 (Gold Coast) Squadron - 6 Sept 1940
* No. 253 (Hyderabad) Squadron
* No. 257 (Burma) Squadron
* No. 263 (Fellowship of the Bellows) Squadron
* No. 302 Polish Fighter Squadron
No. 303 Polish Fighter Squadron - 9 Sept 1940
* No. 310 Czechoslovak Squadron
* No. 312 Czechoslovak Squadron
* No. 401 Canadian Squadron
* No. 501 (County of Gloucester) Squadron
* No. 504 (City of Nottingham) Squadron
* No. 601 (County of London) Squadron
* No. 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron
* No. 607 (County of Durham) Squadron
* No. 615 (County of Surrey) Squadron

Spitfire Squadrons

No. 19 Squadron - e May 1940
No. 41 Squadron - June 1940
No. 54 Squadron - May 1940
No. 64 Squadron - 5 Aug 1940
No. 65 (East India) Squadron - 12 Aug 1940
No. 66 Squadron - 6 Sept 1940
* No. 72 (Basutoland) Squadron -
No. 74 Squadron - May 1940
* No. 92 (East India) Squadron
No. 152 (Hyderabad) Squadron - 4 Sept 1940
* No. 222 (Natal) Squadron
No. 234 (Madras Presidency) Squadron - 18 Aug 1940
* No. 266 (Rhodesia) Squadron
No. 602 (City of Glasgow) Squadron - pre BoB
No. 603 (City of Edinburgh) Squadron - 31 Aug 1940
No. 609 (West Riding) Squadron - pre BoB
No. 610 (County of Chester) Squadron - June 1940
No. 611 (West Lancashire) Squadron - June 1940
No. 616 (South Yorkshire) Squadron - 15 Aug 1940

Other aircraft

* No. 23 Squadron - Bristol Blenheim
* No. 25 Squadron - Bristol Blenheim and Bristol Beaufighter
* No. 29 Squadron - Bristol Blenheim and Bristol Beaufighter
* No. 141 Squadron - Boulton Paul Defiant
* No. 219 (Mysore) Squadron - Bristol Blenheim and Bristol Beaufighter
* No. 235 Squadron - Bristol Blenheim
* No. 236 Squadron - Bristol Blenheim
* No. 247 (China - British) Squadron - Gloster Gladiator
* No. 248 Squadron - Bristol Blenheim
* No. 264 (Madras Presidency) Squadron - Boulton Paul Defiant
* No. 600 (City of London) Squadron - Bristol Blenheim and Bristol Beaufighter
* No. 604 (County of Middlesex) Squadron - Bristol Blenheim and Bristol Beaufighter
* No. 804 Naval Air Squadron - Fairey Fulmar
* No. 808 Naval Air Squadron - Fairey Fulmar

Every Sector Station on the CloD map had 100 octane fuel.
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Old 02-11-2012, 07:07 AM
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Robo, Please list your publications own by you that are pilots manuals on the Merlin II and III production and list the fuels tested since the Battle of France where most RAF Hurricanes were being tested at 12lbs boost instead of 6.25 WHICH IS A JOKE. Most if not all front line fighter air bases received 100 octane fuel. Douglas Bader Biography wrote about the main issues as well as many RAf fighter pilots documented the configuration.
Hello King, perhaps you haven't read properly what I've written. I said exactly what you're saying.

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Again Post your scanned in data that you have purchased to prove to us you are not full of hot air and that the only fuel produced in Britain was 87 and that this was the only fuel available and no planes in the historical record of the BoB did not reach 12lbs boost and that the LW won the war because it had the superior aircraft. So I guess your the only one supplying 1c with your data which I have never seen.
I am confused. Why are saying this? If you notice, I am actually stating that all the planes in the game should be filled up with 100 octanes unless we want some very early pre BoF versions.

As for the documents, I have got Spitfire Mk.I pilot's notes (few versions with updates etc.), Merlin III manual, Merlin II too actually, good source of detailed info is Merlin in perspective - the combat years (Alec Harvey-Bailey). I am not sure if I can publish scans from copyrighted materials, I'd say not. In this book, interesting information about Merlins page 2-207, page 155 Merlin III ratings in developement, page 134-135 comparsion of British fighters to Bf 109 109 with a speed and performance chart (as appendix V to the discussion on page 71), page 85 is about Merlin and 100 octane fuel. Hope that helped.
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