Friday Update, February 10, 2012

[BlackSix]

1) I showed this post about the fuel Ilya, he will think about this problem
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=112

2)

Originally Posted by csThor

@ BlackSix

I wonder how much chances do you see that the systems inaccuracies listed in this thread are being corrected? -> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29526

I gave a link to this post to all who need on Monday

3) Information about the patch
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1789544

Graphic component is almost ready, but there are still a few problems.
We do not have time to make a patch next week, will have to wait

[csThor]

Thanks a lot. For some odd reason I feel a great interest in the Stuka (don't ask me to explain it - I just can't ) and found a few inaccuracies which should really be fixed. All I found are listed in said thread ... among many others.

PS: If you guys need help in understanding the german manual (which I have here, I can provide it) just ask. Ilya has my e-mail and you can contact me via PM here.

[moilami]

Originally Posted by csThor

Thanks a lot. For some odd reason I feel a great interest in the Stuka (don't ask me to explain it - I just can't ) and found a few inaccuracies which should really be fixed. All I found are listed in said thread ... among many others.

PS: If you guys need help in understanding the german manual (which I have here, I can provide it) just ask. Ilya has my e-mail and you can contact me via PM here.

Stuka power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8omGCPpoSJo

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

1) I showed this post about the fuel Ilya, he will think about this problem
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=112

Thx for your action BlackSix but truly speaking i think most here though that flight model and performacne of BoB planes in CLOD got high priority in incoming patch?

Originally Posted by luthier

Hi everyone,

The patch has gone up to steam. It should autoupdate your game version in a few hours once it propagates down to the world. As long as autoupdate is enabled in your steam (Library – Cliffs of Dover – RMB – Properties – Updates – Always keep this game up to date) you do not to take any further actions.

Patch notes can be found below.

And here’s where we are in terms of plans. We obviously remain hard at work on the series. We will continue to improve the game up until the eventual release of its sequel.

Our main priorities now are:

1. Physics and FM. This means plane behavior in the air, brand new landing gear model on the ground, collision modeling including tree collision (if performance allows), and improved vehicle physics.


v1.05.15950 patch notes:

I could say that if you need some help regarding BoB planes performance ( expecially fighters planes) i could be usefull.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

I could say that if you need some help regarding BoB planes performance ( expecially fighters planes) i could be usefull.

Like the Merlin III +9lbs rating...

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/view...188357#p188357

No offence mate.

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Like the Merlin III +9lbs rating...

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/view...188357#p188357

No offence mate.

Well i didn't create these document for Merlin III engine 100 Octan fuel:



In these case i really not sure if +9 lbs boost was not possible to set in Merlin III engine. I just dont have uptated original Manual for Spitfire MK1 with +12 lbs modification - i just got manual for Spitfire MK II Merlin XII which look very similar to document posted above for Merlin III

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

Well i didn't create these document for Merlin III engine 100 Octan fuel (...)

In these case i really not sure if +9 lbs boost was not possible to set in Merlin III engine.

I just dont have uptated original Manual for Spitfire MK1 with +12 lbs modification - i just got manual for Spitfire MK II Merlin XII which look very similar to document posted above for Merlin III

There are actually several versions of Spitfire Mk.I pilot notes (various updates etc.) and even me, far from being an expert I am aware that the above document is from XII development (eg Merlin III that became XII after various modifications) If you're expert offering your services within this specific era you should really know that, that's basic stuff.

Sorry about off topic.

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Robo.

There are actually several versions of Spitfire Mk.I pilot notes (various updates etc.) and even me, far from being an expert I am aware that the above document is from XII development (eg Merlin III that became XII after various modifications) If you're expert offering your services within this specific era you should really know that, that's basic stuff.

Sorry about off topic.

Well nothing is such simple like you think.

Generally rising fuel octan casue higher engine ratings - it is clearly show in many different manuals for different planes ( Spitfire MKII, Tempest etc).

E.x. Spitfire MKII manual:



Brackets - 87 octan fuel, no brackets - 100 octan fuel engine ratings.

I dont want to lead academic debate but there is any info that document about Merlin III new engine ratings is taken from XII development (eg Merlin III that became XII after various modifications) - it is only someone speculation.

Some short uptades in Spitfire MK1 Merlin III manuals said only that with 100 Octan fuel +12 lbs boost was allowed for emergency power - there is no mention about full engine ratings with 100 Octan.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

Well nothing is such simple like you think.

Generally rising fuel octan casue higher engine ratings - it is clearly show in many different manuals for different planes ( Spitfire MKII, Tempest etc).

Brackets - 87 octan fuel, no brackets - 100 octan fuel engine ratings.

It was possible (but not common) to fill Spitfire Mk.II's Merlin XII with 87 octane fuel, hence the brackets.

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

I dont want to lead academic debate but there is any info that document about Merlin III new engine ratings is taken from XII development (eg Merlin III that became XII after various modifications) - it is only someone speculation.

That is not a speculation but a known and well documented fact. I suggest you get more information (other that those available to anyone online) before you offer your services to 1c. No offence ment, just a frank observation. You are, of course, totally right about assuming that higher octanes allowed higher boosts, but you happen to be wrong here as for Merlin development history and few important details that give a bigger picture. I found it quite amusing as you, an expert in BoB fighter performance, came over to a2a with that post. You surely don't lack confidence.

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

Some short uptades in Spitfire MK1 Merlin III manuals said only that with 100 Octan fuel +12 lbs boost was allowed for emergency power - there is no mention about full engine ratings with 100 Octan.

Of course, 100 octane fuel was necessary to achieve the +12lbs. boost in BCC-O setting on both Merlin III and Merlin XII, but the actual nominal rating has not changed to +9lbs on Merlin III. That was purely later mark Merlin (XII) with different coolant and various modifications (or improvements over Merlin III) that allowed higher boost, not the higher octane fuel itself.

Early Merlins as such were able producing much higher MFPs, but the nominal ratings were considered safe by the manufacturer and MoD and they were certainly +6.25lbs for Merlin III no matter what fuel you poured in it. The document you present confused you because there was certain time when the Merlin III has been further developed (as it was always the case with RR) and only later became Merlin XII.

[king1hw]

Kind of funny you posted that:

9lbs at climb

12lbs 3000rpms tho is what we have been asking for and also the correct variants on the 109 engines would be nice to create well rounded maps for an online air war scenario. Like I said if you build it they will come and a lot are waiting which could change very quick if the right stuff is fix first:

1- launcher crash
2- Ghosts in online missions
3- DM completed
4- FM and performances corrected
LAST MORE THEN 3 RAF CHOICES lol.

These few things may be a lot of work but in my book are at the top of my list.

Anyway I am looking forward to flying tonight, however seeing great flux in FPS with new 580 card could that be a bad power supply?

King