Friday Update, February 3, 2012

[TUCKIE_JG52]

Thanks for the new airmass including propwash!

Really THANK YOU!!!

[hiro]

yeah thanks for the update . . .

Like the airmass answer also.

in regarding the positive argument, its always better to be positive, and this also applies to life in general.

in regarding the Rata I can't wait for it. In 1946, that ship's maneuverability was king. It was hard for 109 pilots to shoot down a Rata that used its strengths. I remember watching them BnZ me and then last moment use the Rata's maneuverability to throw off their gunnery and get a quick burst in as they zoomed off.

Also Rata's fell into the that 'annoying troll planes' like the PZL P.11c, that if you knew what you were doing and they didn't catch on quickly, you could make your opponent waste ammo and bug out because its hard to nail something that small and maneuverable.

[JZG_Con]

any news on patch ..still waiting and my sim is gathering dust,upgrading to an i7 system i hope this helps my sim ..!!

Originally Posted by JZG_Con

any news on patch ..still waiting and my sim is gathering dust,upgrading to an i7 system i hope this helps my sim ..!!

Look at the first post in this thread buddy, it gives all the info that is currently available.

[Aer9o]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Look at the first post in this thread buddy, it gives all the info that is currently available.

...like nothing, no time frame or any other indication of when the patch will be released...just another promise that we could have double FPS although there are no screens from the new beta!

[FS~Phat]

Aer9o, just how are you contributing to the discussion by commenting on something that wasn't even directed at you?

There is no point giving an estimated time because last time they offered an estimate and missed it (which is very common in software development BTW) you guys ran riot. This has been discussed before you should know this by now.
It will be ready when its ready.

Regarding the screen shots, it was mentioned that the game will look the same so there is no point in a screen shot of the new engine if it looks the same. You already know what it will look like. You should also know this by now if you had done a search.

So please Dont bring this stuff up again!

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Aer9o

...just another promise that we could have double FPS

There was no such a promise done. This is false information prohibited by the forum rules. This is misleading to those who read only this page and may cause a flame war when we do not see FPS doubled in the patch (and we will not see it very probably).

[Volksieg]

Originally Posted by FS~Phat

it was mentioned that the game will look the same so there is no point in a screen shot of the new engine if it looks the same.

Please don't say that it will look the same! I'm living in the hope that, with my humble Radeon 6770, I'll be able to make it look just slightly better than "the same" come the patch. lol

Personally, I'm very grateful for the updates! Sure... it may not be giving me the information I really want ie: Here's the patch and your humble little machine can now play it at Very High settings with an FPS in the thousands....... but they can only tell us what they are 100% certain of. Surely that is much better than either nothing at all or a just a load of lies and false promises?

Maybe I'm just incredibly patient? What can I say... I bought Gothic 3 on the release day.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by Aer9o

...just another promise that we could have double FPS although there are no screens from the new beta!

No, that was a 50% increase, not doubled.
I'm not a fan of the sims current state or the direction they seem to be going with the "fixes" or lack thereof-but come on dude if your going to b**ch about it at least get your talking points right!

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I believe your right on that Robtek, but Oleg and Luthier have stated that DX11 was only dropped because they didn't quite have the time to get it optimised.

After release Luthier stated that it was now a priority, from that I would imagine that nearly a year later that the new graphic engine could possibly be in DX11 (could this be the surprise Luthier as in store for us). It would make no sense to competely redo the graphics engine and leave out DX11 especially when the next sequel will be using the same engine, and BOM as to be DX11 right?

This could be how Luthier as managed to get a 100% increase in performance that he has more than hinted at. Im not saying for certain but I would not be at all surprised that the new patch will be in DX11, and if thats the case then it will be well worth the wait.

If the graphics engine update is DX11 only, then i guess it will only apply to DX11 GPUs in terms of performance gains (which i assume is not yet a majority in the Russian market and not an overwhelming one in Europe, these cards are somewhat expensive ).

What i gleaned from the updates is that they are redoing the whole thing, not in terms of looks but in terms of more efficient algorithms for all supported platforms.

As for DX11, i saw a pretty good technical explanation in another thread the other day and it's far from a magic "more FPS button".

Pretty much, the way it works is that you can code a game for DX11 and then just keep its feature set disabled, which means that it reverts to the immediately previous features (those of DX10).

Reportedly the reasons for this decision were delays on Microsoft's end with some of the implementation of DX11.

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Here, you said what Im saying all this time. Because of that Ive been criticized and called a whiner and an "enemy of the state".....

Ataros is polite. We don't moderate opinions, we moderate their delivery (eg, rudeness, language, etc)



That being said, i see some old faces coming back so a heads up is in order for the sake of fairness. I urge everyone to take a look at the rules and the infraction system in the relevant sticky threads. I see some posts in the old, usual style (accusations and inappropriate language) and i wouldn't want anyone to get banned without having a warning. It happens pretty much automatically now, through a point system interface. Rule broken = points taken = ban if enough points are accumulated. And it's not that hard to accumulate points.


So let's keep on topic and within the rules.