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03-28-2008, 08:30 AM
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What i was trying to say, but i would replace "Completly out of the question" with "just wouldnt work" since the code is out there for everyone to see. Just to be clear, i wasnt trying/are intrested in starting the same flame war whe allredy had, no need to go down that promodder/antimodder debate again. Wasnt trying to take a stab at the Spit Mk1 mod one way or the other, was just using it as an example to show, regarding the orginal poster, that mods will pop up weather they would be approved or not since the code is now every mans "propperty" After lurkin over at AAA from time to time looking at the development im actually starting to think that the IL2 community proppably could (wild guess) police itselfe if some kind of system would be implemented, and make a fairly good job of it. Better than any other gaming community out there i dare say, but in the end that doesnt matter since A: Oleg havent/wont (?) approve of it and B: there are those nagging 2% (maby even 10%) who just dont give a rats ass about any rules or regulations when they dont have to. Last edited by Baron; 03-28-2008 at 08:52 AM. 
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03-28-2008, 09:03 AM
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No, I mean "completely out of question". It is a question of legal issues, which are not pursued for reasons we can only speculate over, and not of practicality and ressource issues Maddox Games may have. The fundamental fact that the file protection was hacked still remains and that makes all "mods" follow-up products of an illegal act. To approve of these mods would mean to condone hacking and I'm sure everyone understands that no company would sanction that.
And regarding "self-policing" at AAA ... The fact that there seems to be a list of "do not link to" websites is speaking volumes about how much the admins there really have to say about what happens regarding modding Il-2 - nothing at all.
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03-28-2008, 09:48 AM
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Totaly agree on the legal issue and how beeing able to mod came about (by theft more or less) (And to anyonelse btw: NO, we do not need to go down that road of "but what is theft REALLY, when u think about it, bla, bla, bla and bla again..and so on, and so forth.) As for "wont work" and "self policing", that was more a "what if" kind of thing (a big what if)..like for ex, IF there where some kind of system implemented, wich there, like u said, isnt at the moment..and proppably wont be in the future either. Anyways, officially approved mods wont happen/work even if Oleg says ok...since the code is out there to be abused by anyone...and sooner or later will be, if u dont count what happened up until now that is, wich in in self is kind of a clue as to how the idea of a officially approved modding system would work if implemented. The official modders where never a problem in the past, the rouge hacker was however and will allways be no matter how many times one say "official" Last edited by Baron; 03-28-2008 at 10:14 AM.
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03-28-2008, 01:00 PM
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So does that mean it is perfectly fine to link to those web sites here ?
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03-28-2008, 04:48 PM
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While I think that the notion of "illegality" is dubious (it would require some case law examples to prove), this is Oleg's forum.
It's enough HERE, that Oleg/1C not WISH it to be here. This is in effect his house, and if they ask not to link, don't link. Respect that, it's only polite to do so. I'm in the "pro modding" camp, BTW, so you know where I come from.
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03-28-2008, 04:49 PM
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03-28-2008, 06:15 PM
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NOW, do I think it will happen ... nope. Is it a good idea ? I think so. If the modded material was incorporated into patch 4.09, or 4.1 .... does it remain a mod ? Don't you think all the anti-modders wouldn't want to fly some of these awesome maps ? or even some of the flyables ... I'm betting they would. just like many of the anti-modders lurk at the AAA site, and download the new mods to "test" them ... yeah, right ... I'll bet they don't remove them after testing though. 
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