A mod approval thought for 4.09 for the 1C team

[jermin]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The downside is...it will be a waste of time for IC....No matter how long it takes for them to release SOW. I doubt if they could spare a minute even to look at the issue with the amount of work required to complete their long delayed SOW project. Sure there will be a few players continue to use and mod the IL-2 series, but the majority of players will move on to the far more immersive SOW series.

As far as On-line.....I would say you'd be hard pressed to find a server in hyperlobby with the game settings, theater, and mods that you would prefer to fly after most of the on-line crowd move on to SOW.

I did download the new sounds and liked some aspects, but there were enough bad sounds and bugs that I prefer the original.

I don't think most IL2 players will shift to BoB immediately after its release. Most late-war pilots will wait untill their favorite rides such as FW190 and P51 show up in the game. I believe IL2 will exist together with BoB for a very long time. Lets say 3 years. With more than 200 planes to fly, IL2 is more like an air war compared to BoB. As for immersion, IL2 still gets a lot of potentials. IMO Immersion can be achieved in many diffrent ways, not only by enhencing graphics. IL2 supports multiplayer of up to 128 players. Just imagine an air engagement between squads, say 8 vs 8, in an online server, not individuals or pairs. But have we ever seen a single server with 128 players playing in it? Most online missions have olny a limited quantity of ground objects because they eat up fps significantly, which makes the ground surface quite bleak. With graphics cards of 8800 level prevail, these problems will be easilly solved. Nontheless, With all special effects turned on, such as water=4, typecloud=1, effects=2, forests=3, LandGeom=3, high AA AF, Vsync, IL2 still looks quite up-to-date. If Oleg approves and regulates the unofficial mods, I don't even see a reason to go for BoB.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by jermin

I don't think most IL2 players will shift to BoB immediately after its release. Most late-war pilots will wait untill their favorite rides such as FW190 and P51 show up in the game. I believe IL2 will exist together with BoB for a very long time. Lets say 3 years. With more than 200 planes to fly, IL2 is more like an air war compared to BoB. As for immersion, IL2 still gets a lot of potentials. IMO Immersion can be achieved in many ways, not only by enhencing graphics. IL2 supports multiplayer game of up to 128 players. Just imagine an air fight between squads, say 8 vs 8, in an online server, not individuals or pairs. But have we ever seen a single server with 128 players playing in it? Most online missions have olny a limited quantity of ground objects because they eat up fps significantly, which makes the ground surface quite bleak. With graphics cards of 8800 level prevail, these problems will be easilly solved. Nontheless, With all special effects turned on, such as water=4, typecloud=1, effects=2, forests=3, LandGeom=3, high AA AF, Vsync, IL2 still looks quite up-to-date. If Oleg approves and regulates the unofficial mods, I don't even see a reason to go for BoB.

I do the BOB II WOV now and it's great fun. Trying to shoot down anything with six .303 is... well a lesson in patience and exasperation. I feel sorry for those poor pilots that had to face the German fighters with those 20MM cannons. My gosh, to be so smart the Brits weren't awake when they put so little firepower into their fighters. Spits or Hurricanes, just weren't ready for much. The British pilots were just one heck of a bunch of great men, real heroes in my book.

Those .303 were like peashooters up next to those 20mm cannons.

So, yeah the BOB SOW will not be as much fun as taking a late model spit and flying against just about any kind of enemy online currently.

[Chivas]

I think the more advanced aircraft model will make the high rate of fire 303's more effective. Although I find the existing hitting power of the Hurricane very effective in IL-2. Sure there will be a few people hang on to IL-2 and I don't blame them as it is a classic, BUT BOB should be far more immersive. The off-line people will be able to stay with IL-2 longer, but the on-liners will probably have to move on just to get the numbers on the server to make for a good experience. By the time some people get bored with BOB the next addition to the series should be on hand.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I do the BOB II WOV now and it's great fun. Trying to shoot down anything with six .303 is... well a lesson in patience and exasperation. I feel sorry for those poor pilots that had to face the German fighters with those 20MM cannons. My gosh, to be so smart the Brits weren't awake when they put so little firepower into their fighters. Spits or Hurricanes, just weren't ready for much. The British pilots were just one heck of a bunch of great men, real heroes in my book.

Those .303 were like peashooters up next to those 20mm cannons.

So, yeah the BOB SOW will not be as much fun as taking a late model spit and flying against just about any kind of enemy online currently.

well, ask all those Lufwaffe Pilots who had to fly a Bf109E-1 , armed with 4xMG17

and the E-1 was the second most 109 version used during the BoB !