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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-31-2012, 10:06 AM
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The only thing that makes me sad is that on average I invest 1000-1500 USD every year on PC hardware but only 40-50 USD on 1c. So 1c gets the most of the "heat" but in reality the guys who profit most from 1c's work is the hardware PC industry...
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I agree, it's crazy how little we have to pay for the software in comparison.

In terms of progress....I'm also looking forward to them tweaking the FM, CEM etc. as that is my thing. I know they are working on FM fixes but my guess is that the massive graphics rewrite is absorbing much of the effort and they are wanting to nail that one before focussing more on the things that matter to me.

I hope after this next patch we can start seeing a lot of loose ends being tied up by the team, making a more polished product.
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:20 PM
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I know they are working on FM fixes but my guess is that the massive graphics rewrite is absorbing much of the effort and they are wanting to nail that one before focussing more on the things that matter to me.
Try to think for others too, for a change. Most ppl have various performance issues (usually when effects are near, more planes in dogfight etc.). Including me. You have very powerfull rig and not all of us can afford that (latest quad cores and SLI systems with latest GPUs). OK my rig is pretty decent (i7920 OC to 3.5Ghz, GTX470 TF2 OC to 800 Mhz on core, 6GB DDR3 working at app. 1333Mhz.) but stil have very noticable fps drops (slowdowns) when effects are near (dust, explosions, fire from my engine etc.). Yes, Ive been a beta tester, have a long history dealing with games and software optimisations and I did everything I could to optimise and speed up my PC. I gained smoother game after that but like I said its still very slow on some occasions. And I dont want to play this sim on low to med video settings (just to gain more speed) because then its not CLOD but some outdated sim. I suppose most folks ("ofliners" and "onliners") have even less powerful rigs than mine. Im not saying I cant play this sim but the optimisation of the core engine should be their main task. For now. Later they can deal with FM fixes. Im all for that. With time ppl will upgrade their rigs and with upcoming optimisation of the core we all should be able to play this without (big) issues.

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Old 01-31-2012, 12:48 PM
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You have very powerfull rig and not all of us can afford that (latest quad cores and SLI systems with latest GPUs).
Nope, wish I did though. I'm in the same boat as you Tvrdi and have to run at 1280 (or something like that) on mainly low settings.

I have an i7 920 2.66Ghz but only 2GB memory and an ancient GeForce GTS 250 1GB card - and running XP too.

I think you misunderstand me....I definitely support them fixing the core performance issues with the graphics rewrite - it will benefit me a great deal I hope. I was just pointing out that the big list of outstanding issues that they appear to be ignoring is probably due to them wanting to get the core fixed first.
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:54 PM
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Nope, wish I did though. I'm in the same boat as you Tvrdi and have to run at 1280 (or something like that) on mainly low settings.

I have an i7 920 2.66Ghz but only 2GB memory and an ancient GeForce GTS 250 1GB card - and running XP too.

I think you misunderstand me....I definitely support them fixing the core performance issues with the graphics rewrite - it will benefit me a great deal I hope. I was just pointing out that the big list of outstanding issues that they appear to be ignoring is probably due to them wanting to get the core fixed first.

Man... it is just not possible, mkay? Nobody knows what really happened prior to Oleg farewell, but something HAPPENED, and since that time all screenshots look different and result is what you got. It looks like all new things were deleted and poor Luthier had to start over with empty table and unfeasible deadlines and incompetent workforce.

But... not my problem anymore. Reading it here just because of nostalgy, and just to see the SIGNS again, even here, how everything is going to hell...
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:59 PM
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One more thing to react...

Someone pointed out that WWI planes are so primitive that it is possible to simulate them better and quickly, and WW2 planes are so complicated with their CEM and other stuff, that it takes years...

What about DCS A-10? If your argument is correct, we should not be able to fly it, because it would be still in development... (MG spent already 7 years on WW2). Based on your argument, I would expect simulator of A-10 around 2035...
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:14 PM
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Man... it is just not possible, mkay? Nobody knows what really happened prior to Oleg farewell, but something HAPPENED, and since that time all screenshots look different and result is what you got. It looks like all new things were deleted and poor Luthier had to start over with empty table and unfeasible deadlines and incompetent workforce.

But... not my problem anymore. Reading it here just because of nostalgy, and just to see the SIGNS again, even here, how everything is going to hell...

OK, see ya.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:53 PM
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I am from Chinese

IL2 COD 下一个版本 battle of moscow

必须是64位

battle of moscow 必须与现在的IL2 COD的版本不兼容

现在版的IL2 COD的建模、损伤、弹道 可移到64位

的新版本中。

不应该有问题。

IL2 COD next version of the battle of moscow

Must be 64-bit

battle of moscow must now IL2 COD version is not compatible

Current version of the IL2 COD modeling, damage, trajectory can move to 64-bit

The new version.

There should be no problem.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:04 PM
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I am from Chinese

IL2 COD 下一个版本 battle of moscow

必须是64位

battle of moscow 必须与现在的IL2 COD的版本不兼容

现在版的IL2 COD的建模、损伤、弹道 可移到64位

的新版本中。

不应该有问题。

IL2 COD next version of the battle of moscow

Must be 64-bit

battle of moscow must now IL2 COD version is not compatible

Current version of the IL2 COD modeling, damage, trajectory can move to 64-bit

The new version.

There should be no problem.
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Nope, wish I did though. I'm in the same boat as you Tvrdi and have to run at 1280 (or something like that) on mainly low settings.

I have an i7 920 2.66Ghz but only 2GB memory and an ancient GeForce GTS 250 1GB card - and running XP too.

I think you misunderstand me....I definitely support them fixing the core performance issues with the graphics rewrite - it will benefit me a great deal I hope. I was just pointing out that the big list of outstanding issues that they appear to be ignoring is probably due to them wanting to get the core fixed first.
Ahh I think I mistaken u with some other guy...TBH Im at 1920x1200 (was at 1680x1050 before)...Like I said game runs fine on my system as long as theres no effects near or sometimes when the more planes are in low level dogfight...or when memory "leaks"....

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Old 01-31-2012, 01:09 PM
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Ahh I think I mistaken u with some other guy...TBH Im at 1920x1200 (was at 1680x1050before)...Like I said game runs fine on my system as long as theres no effects near or sometimes when the more planes are in low level dogfight...or when memory "leaks"....
TBH particle effects have always had a hit on most systems for most games, my modest machine runs everything I have well on max but it will slow down when smoke effects and dust etc are there.
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