American Censorship SOPA & PIPA

nearmiss · #1 01-30-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

The UK has signed an extradition treaty with American, meaning I could "commit a crime" against America here in England and be sent to jail in America....

Wonder which other countries have this treaty.

That doesn't make sense to you?

With world wide communication and ability to deal with nations while you aren't in the nation you are transacting with is common.

Think through this... What if you arranged to kill someone in America from England, then your hitman did kill, got caught and told who ordered the hit.

Who is guilty the person that ordered the kill or the contract killer?

SlipBall · #2 01-30-2012, 10:46 PM

Okay I'll jump in and defend America...You guys must understand what's at stake. I'm sure deep inside you is understood, that it is indeed all about stopping thieft that is at the core of these bill's. Because of measures like this being taken, we will all suffer with some loss of privacy, mainly because a bunch of jerks write these bills...It's all about stopping the robbing of peoples ideas, inventions, and creative expressions, what’s called intellectual property. Everything from trade secrets and proprietary products and parts to movies and music and software. (Il-2 anyone)
It’s a growing threat especially with the rise of digital technologies and Internet file sharing networks. And much of the theft takes place overseas, where laws are often lax and enforcement more difficult. All told, intellectual property theft costs U.S. businesses billions of dollars a year and robs the nation of jobs and lost tax revenues. They are trying to specifically focus on the theft of trade secrets and infringements on products that can impact consumers' health and safety, such as counterfeit aircraft, car, and electronic parts. It's estimated that 1/2 of all the Windows OS in China are pirated...so what's Bill $gates to do??...how would you address this problem I ask.

WTE_Galway · #3 01-30-2012, 11:21 PM

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...so what's Bill $gates to do??...how would you address this problem I ask.

Market the product in a fairer or more innovative way ... provide better service and support to give people something for their money ... actual compete with rather than buying out and/or closing down your competitors .... many things

I find it quite disgusting that over 3/4 of the total cost of a basic (non gaming) PC with office installed is the MS software and only 1/4 the hardware. Especially when its the hardware companies that are struggling to make money not the software/media giants.

Aside from anything else the tactics used in this area are disgusting. Have a look at this typical example of how these corporations behave ...

http://games.on.net/article/14729/Wi...o_Target_iiNet

nearmiss · #4 01-31-2012, 02:18 AM

There are a myriad of ways to stop piracy...

Software developer releases new version, but it's buggy. Upon registration updated competent version is downloaded and installed by the software developer on the computer. The developer harvests the MAC address during this process, which is a unique number burned into all computers.

The trouble in China and other countries is... the governments are gangsters.

swiss · #5 01-31-2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nearmiss

which is a unique number burned into all computers.

I suggest you google "change mac address"

5./JG27.Farber · #6 01-31-2012, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nearmiss

That doesn't make sense to you?

With world wide communication and ability to deal with nations while you aren't in the nation you are transacting with is common.

Think through this... What if you arranged to kill someone in America from England, then your hitman did kill, got caught and told who ordered the hit.

Who is guilty the person that ordered the kill or the contract killer?

No it doesnt make sense that people can be AUTOMATICALLY wrenched from their country. There is virtually no diplomatic process and the American government needs virtually no proof. Why should america be the long armed police man of the world? Do you think China or Russia would just hand over citizens for minor crimes?

Check this out, they took this kid with Autism for "6 months commnuity service" then when they got him, made it 60 years!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ns-speaks.html

RCAF_FB_Orville · #7 01-31-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

No it doesnt make sense that people can be AUTOMATICALLY wrenched from their country. There is virtually no diplomatic process and the American government needs virtually no proof. Why should america be the long armed police man of the world? Do you think China or Russia would just hand over citizens for minor crimes?

Check this out, they took this kid with Autism for "6 months commnuity service" then when they got him, made it 60 years!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ns-speaks.html

Bottom line is, McKinnon humiliated the US by easily getting into NASA and Pentagon systems with a 300 quid computer, and now they want their pound of flesh. He's a loner-geek with a medical condition called Aspergers syndrome, meaning he lives in his own little world and is most definitely not some super spy or Terrorist mastermind.....Its not fair at all. What he did was 'wrong' and he has apologised profusely for it, and probably did not realise the trouble he could get in.

He deserves sanction, but there are mitigating circumstances, and 60 years is frikkin ludicrous, but then the British Student Richard O' Dwyer is looking at a possible 10 years for creating a website (TV shack) providing links to films and Tv shows etc. Money is God in the US, always has been.

Ironically, 'the land of the free' has the highest documented incarceration rate of any country that has ever existed.....imprisoning more people than the likes of Iran and China.....1 in every 100 US citizens are in actually in jail. Not bashing the US, but it happens to be true. I personally think the UK is a little too soft on certain crimes, but I would prefer moderation and common sense over ridiculously harsh sentencing any day of the week.

Just an opinion.

bongodriver · #8 01-31-2012, 11:37 AM

Fair enough.....

I'm editing your posting... because you need to get the message.

You little one-liners with not substance are an annoyance. You poke away on thiese boards with this kind of talk consistently.

I'm not deleting the posting, because if anyone else thinks they are going to disrupt this topic they are mistaken.