Friday Update, January 27, 2012

Sternjaeger II · #1 01-28-2012, 11:30 AM

It's about reputation bongo,we're fans,but there are thousands of potential customers out there tha might be put off by the awful reviews and the lack of a clear vision and months (or years!) of wait.

Squash the bugs,sort your core product out, THEN work on other projects. I'm sure there are still a lot of things that can be fixed and/or implemented in CoD in terms of 3d modelling.

bongodriver · #2 01-28-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

It's about reputation bongo,we're fans,but there are thousands of potential customers out there tha might be put off by the awful reviews and the lack of a clear vision and months (or years!) of wait.

Squash the bugs,sort your core product out, THEN work on other projects. I'm sure there are still a lot of things that can be fixed and/or implemented in CoD in terms of 3d modelling.

Tosh! the reviews are already out there and theres nothing that can be done, what we don't need are the constant whingers here adding to the damage, to be hones appart from a couple of ships I don't think theres any need for more 3D work in COD, including the Italian stuff was a waste of time that could have been better spent making more LW and RAF stuff flyable, I don't care if it takes a year (since release) to fix COD....the whole point it is being fixed and the devs have made it crystal clear what's involved and why, most of the whingeing is just a petty attempt to muddy those waters with bizarre speculation.

I make my point again that fixing COD isn't bringing funds in, whatever comparissons you want to make with 1C's strategy and Hitlers plans, 1C have no other choice but to work on something to make some more money.

Skoshi Tiger · #3 01-28-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Squash the bugs,sort your core product out, THEN work on other projects. I'm sure there are still a lot of things that can be fixed and/or implemented in CoD in terms of 3d modelling.

Isn't that what Luthier just said?

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Originally Posted by BlackSix;384928 [I

PS And I’d like to point this out one more time. There is no conflict between the old and the new. We have one team that works on a single overall task, that is, improving the Il-2 series. Whether it is a new sound engine or a new graphics engine, we don’t make them for CoD or for the sequel. We make them for IL-2 Sturmovik.[/I]

Sternjaeger II · #4 01-28-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Isn't that what Luthier just said?

Mmmh what he said it's a bit of a clever formula: they're basically following EXACTLY the same path as IL-2,both in terms of positive and negative stuff. In five years' time we will have planes with a higher standard than the ones we have now (think about the Me109 in IL-2: a key aircraft that has never been substantially updated in 10 years,concentrating potential time and efforts to update it in project that nobody really cared about,like some obscure Russian planes), so we will have again a serious imbalance and a feeling of half-finished product.

They raised the bar of course,but they really need to look into standardisation of procedures.

Again,I want to be optimist and wait for the mother of all patches,I really hope I'll be proven wrong,but somehow doubt it..

bongodriver · #5 01-28-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Mmmh what he said it's a bit of a clever formula: they're basically following EXACTLY the same path as IL-2,both in terms of positive and negative stuff. In five years' time we will have planes with a higher standard than the ones we have now (think about the Me109 in IL-2: a key aircraft that has never been updated in 10 years,concentrating potential time and efforts to update it in project that nobody really cared about,like some obscure Russian planes), so we will have again a serious imbalance and a feeling of half-finished product.

They raised the bar of course,but they really need to look into standardisation of procedures.

Again,I want to be optimist and wait for the mother of all patches,I really hope I'll be proven wrong,but somehow doubt it..

Obscure....lol, if you are Russian it's a fair bet Spitfires and P-51's are obscure.

I seriously doubt you will ever feel you have been proved wrong too

carguy_ · #6 01-28-2012, 03:21 PM

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I don't think you realise the damage you cause by maintaining this pathetic opposition; or this rather tedious 'high horse' approach.

What?

You seem to have a strange tendency to ignore the manner in which the whiners post thier "opinions".

FS~Phat · #7 01-28-2012, 02:13 PM

Guys what some of you dont seem to understand, and I think this has been said before......

The modellers have pretty much finished CoD content and them moving on to the sequel doesnt impact the current bugs and they need to be working on something to keep the series going. (and their jobs)

The code base for the sequel is the same code for CoD...

Dont quote me on this.... but.. When the patch comes out it will most likely have the same engine and most of the features from 'BoM' (or whatever you want to call the sequel) and some of those features will only be activated if you buy the sequel. As such, so will the new content be in the sequel too.

So what exactly do you think you will be loosing by them working on the sequel? A bit of content that will probably be added by 3rd party developers as originally intended????? I can wait, and I think a few of you need to be a little more patient. I have a pretty good feeling that it will be worth it.

Force10 · #8 01-28-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FS~Phat

Guys what some of you dont seem to understand, and I think this has been said before......

The modellers have pretty much finished CoD content and them moving on to the sequel doesnt impact the current bugs and they need to be working on something to keep the series going. (and their jobs)

The code base for the sequel is the same code for CoD...

Dont quote me on this.... but.. When the patch comes out it will most likely have the same engine and most of the features from 'BoM' (or whatever you want to call the sequel) and some of those features will only be activated if you buy the sequel. As such, so will the new content be in the sequel too.

So what exactly do you think you will be loosing by them working on the sequel? A bit of content that will probably be added by 3rd party developers as originally intended????? I can wait, and I think a few of you need to be a little more patient. I have a pretty good feeling that it will be worth it.

I also think they have every right to work on a sequel. I just think it was a huge mistake to announce they are working on a sequel and then post that certain features will be held out for the sequel. Given the state that COD is in, it would have been better to let us believe that they were completly focused on fixing the existing product. After a patch or two that fixes a lot things is released and things have calmed down, then announce you are working on a sequel.

bongodriver · #9 01-28-2012, 03:56 PM

They never said they are holding features back for the sequel, they said the big fix is so big that implementing more features will have to wait untill the sequel....big difference, no conspiracy there, no suggestions we are being held to any ransoms.

Force10 · #10 01-28-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver

They never said they are holding features back for the sequel, they said the big fix is so big that implementing more features will have to wait untill the sequel....big difference, no conspiracy there, no suggestions we are being held to any ransoms.

OMG. Actually, for once bongo, I agree with what you said. I did phrase that wrong. I should have said "won't make it until the sequel". Yes, no conspiracy, but still made a lot of folks unhappy...except you I imagine.