First Red Tail review..Told ya!

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by pencon

Of course I do David, but the german pilots were not nazis ,and i think it would be interesting to see the AIRWAR through their eyes as well as the allied side .Just watch A&E dogfights and youll see yet another depiction of hopeless german pilots . My point is Im sure they also got their number of allied kills . Not siding with nazis David , just looking for realism.Also it would allow for a closer view of german aircraft. So David if you fly a 109 in the sim does that make you a nazi?

@David The above WAS the point. I thought it was evident that not all Luftwaffe pilots were like the evil, sneering, duelling-scarred individual caricatured in the movie. If you believe they were, so be it.

[robtek]

David,

which such a simplified view at the past, as you have shown in the last posts, you can only be shure of one thing:

your pov is, while not completely wrong, definitely not right, in the real world.

The times of black and white are long gone!

[pencon]

David you need to buy a sim of people sitting on the porch together sipping lemonade and having happy moments in the sunset .In your eyes I guess even today German people are all nazis right ?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

@David The above WAS the point. I thought it was evident that not all Luftwaffe pilots were like the evil, sneering, duelling-scarred individual caricatured in the movie. If you believe they were, so be it.

No, I don't believe they were. Nor does it matter what they were. The only thing that matters is that they were fighting on the same side as the Nazis. Therefor, they will always be the bad guys, That seems pretty simple, and also quite understandable.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by robtek

David,

which such a simplified view at the past, as you have shown in the last posts, you can only be shure of one thing:

your pov is, while not completely wrong, definitely not right, in the real world.

The times of black and white are long gone!

We're not talking about the real world. We're talking about movies. I think you'll find that the world view in most movies actually is "black and white". Complex bad guys are pretty rare. People tend to want their bad guys to be obviously bad.

[JG52Krupi]

When are you guys going to realize that David looks at a thread finds the view with the smallest minority and then saddles up with that view and starts trolling for all his worth... he's just a wind up merchant, don't buy his shizzle

[pencon]

I have an RC model of an FW190 d9 with a swastika on the tail so I guess I must be a nazi ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwZ5OFGIFk8

(I'm actually not though )

[robtek]

Originally Posted by pencon

I have an RC model of an FW190 d9 with a swastika on the tail so I guess I must be a nazi ...

(I'm actually not though )

Sorry, for some people, you, and all your descendants, are damned forever.

[pencon]

I suppose for a lot of African Americans , Caucasians are the evil bad guys , right David ? Perhaps even some of your ancestors would be on that list ..

[JG52Uther]

I shall let Blackadder have the last word on this thread:

It started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end the better, but apart from that it was excellent.