Megaupload has been shut down

[winny]

Originally Posted by pupo162

utter BS



lets just wait for megaupload to switch is servers to a true free country.

Do you mean a country where theft is acceptable when you say free? What makes you think you're above the law?

You admit to using if for illegal downloads yet blame "the Americans"

You want to blame someone, blame the people who committed the crime not the people enforcing it. If people weren't using it for illegal stuff it would still be there.

[Continu0]

Originally Posted by winny

You want to blame someone, blame the people who committed the crime not the people enforcing it. If people weren't using it for illegal stuff it would still be there.

Well, if you want to blame the people who committed the crime, with shutting down the website you are not punishing the right ones...

[Sternjaeger II]

I think it's the case they re-assess the concept of intellectual property: I can't download and listen to a song, but I can listen to it for free on an internet radio or via Grooveshark?

They just need to accept the fact that the world has changed dramatically since the 60s, the entertainment industry has become too expensive and not everybody can afford to pay their prices, but still, because of the marketing they generated, people want to use their products nonetheless. Result? If I can't afford it, I'll get it for free, since it's easier that way.

It's their own greediness that is damaging them.. besides I would like to really quantify this "damage", considering that I haven't heard of a high profile music star being broke lately..
How should people feel when they say that Tom Cruise's daughter had, at 4 years old, a $130.000 Xmas list?! I mean, hellooooo?!? Reality check!!!

F**k them I say, I don't need your industry, I know who to rely to if I want good music and good movies.
In the end of the day, it's their fault if blockbusters like Pearl Harbour get so publicised and little masterpieces like Dark Blue World barely make it to the cinema screens.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

They just need to accept the fact that the world has changed dramatically since the 60s, the entertainment industry has become too expensive and not everybody can afford to pay their prices, but still, because of the marketing they generated, people want to use their products nonetheless. Result? If I can't afford it, I'll get it for free, since it's easier that way.

And so what, if i can´t afford it, i don´t buy it. or if i really must have this new piece of "already-old-tomorrow" art, i save up some money and buy it later.
That´s no excuse for piracy.

the only sad thing about shutting down megaup is, that those that used it honestly are now punished because of the many who weren´t.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen

And so what, if i can´t afford it, i don´t buy it. or if i really must have this new piece of "already-old-tomorrow" art, i save up some money and buy it later.
That´s no excuse for piracy.

the only sad thing about shutting down megaup is, that those that used it honestly are now punished because of the many who weren´t.

ah! I wish the world worked on such a simple equation..

You can appreciate that unfortunately that's not the case, and I am sure that when you were a teenager (if you're not now) you made your copy cassettes, cds and what not..

Today it's just easier to share this stuff, but it's not much different than what it used to be 10 years ago. Online sales meant the music industry income skyrocketed like never before, cos now you just need a couple of clicks to buy music online.
Besides, don't be fooled by what they say: artists' incomes are generated more by concerts and other sales, the amount of money they get for the actual record sale is still very marginal. Music artists with real money in the music industry are the ones who became producers (Jay-Z, Pharrell Williams etc..), see what they think and say about online sharing..

[Sternjaeger II]

as for Megaupload, you really think that most of his traffic was generated by legit material?! Puh-leeeease!

[bongodriver]

Go figure, piracy has been around since these industries have, if they were taking so much damage from it then how have they become so immensely rich and powerfull that they can influence the goverment to take these actions?

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

You can appreciate that unfortunately that's not the case, and I am sure that when you were a teenager (if you're not now) you made your copy cassettes, cds and what not..

how i wish i still were a teen, sigh. At the time i did it, there were only one platform to share, and that was the Kazaa (which i used, yes) network. There wasn´t any Rapidshare and the likes. Hell, eMule just started and the torrent network was still to come. But i almost always bought the stuff i considered a good investment and i used that exact excuse you mentioned earlier. Hell, i was lucky to have a 100€/200DM at that time, which is nothing right after school.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Besides, don't be fooled by what they say: artists' incomes are generated more by concerts and other sales, the amount of money they get for the actual record sale is still very marginal. Music artists with real money in the music industry are the ones who became producers (Jay-Z, Pharrell Williams etc..), see what they think and say about online sharing..

agreed

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by winny

Do you mean a country where theft is acceptable when you say free? What makes you think you're above the law?

You admit to using if for illegal downloads yet blame "the Americans"

You want to blame someone, blame the people who committed the crime not the people enforcing it. If people weren't using it for illegal stuff it would still be there.

what the hell are you on about !?

ive never said i used it for illegal downlaods. in fact, i said the exact oposite. i use megaupload for legal stuff on daily baisis for the last 2 or 3 years.( lately ive discovered dropbox who actually replaces it for most of my personnal use).

truth is fair and simple, you wont be able to stop piracy, music, film and game industry need to grow up and jump to the 21st century. they just cant expect people to pay 20euros for 1 cd, 70 euros for a game and 40 euro for a blue ray. its just abusive. they are placing a price way to high on culture and people who want to be cult not allways have the stupid ammount of money necessary to fullfill their needs.

Im not much of a downloader myself. i have 0 illegaly downloaded tracks on my pc, 0 illegal games and absolutely no dvds. but i do use alternative methods to lsiten to music ( youtube, not everithing posted there is legal ), or to watch tv series.

truth be told, im preatty sure every single one of my music albuns are from artists that if it wasnt for youtube i would never have bought.


So, NO i want blame the "pirates" for getting megaupload down. And yes i blame "the americans", not the citizens, but the twisted gouvernament who keeps on rulling the world thinking they own everithing.

[KG26_Alpha]

Well here's one reason its been closed.

"Around thirty cars and motorcycles were seized as well as property and technology on the strength
of a series of emails that appear to show Kim offering cash rewards for uploaders who had provided
specific DVDs and other copyrighted works. One series shows how Kim wanted to copy YouTube ‘one-to-one’."


All over a few e-mails.



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