Battle for Moscow

[Fansadox]

A community manager is what they need. Lack of info and sporadic feedback is killing them right now.

[priller26]

So far I am very pleased with the game. As with any game, there
certainly seem to be some issues to be worked out, but like the
last IL-2 series, I am confident they will be corrected over time.

Originally Posted by priller26

So far I am very pleased with the game. As with any game, there
certainly seem to be some issues to be worked out, but like the
last IL-2 series, I am confident they will be corrected over time.

And confidence is coming from.....? The game is still unplayable for most (online) when effects are near (dust, explosions) or when the dogfight is low over cities. AA still not working without "3d party fix". Game was released year ago.

No Battle for Moscow for me, until they fix the CLOD. Dont get me wrong, I would like to play this sim because thats what I like to do in my free time for last 15 yrs....and I gave them 50 bucks....which is not a small change in this part of the world...

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

And confidence is coming from.....?

10 years of IL2 development and a lot of "been there, done that?"

[Hood]

This thread isn't about any of the CloD problems - we all know what these are. It's about rebuilding the fan base/developer relationship and BoM providing a great opportunity to do so. You could even do this with CloD if the will to do so is there.

Hood

[mcdaniels]

No Battle for Moscow for me, until they fix the CLOD.

+1

I accepted the not working comm.
I accepted the scripted Campaign.
I accepted the FPS drops.

..but I really cannot accept the CTD. I know, always the same "bla bla bla" .

For me CloD is a really nice sim, no question!

Is it possible that the main focus of the devs is concentrating to the sequel?

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by mcdaniels

+1

I accepted the not working comm.
I accepted the scripted Campaign.
I accepted the FPS drops.

..but I really cannot accept the CTD. I know, always the same "bla bla bla" .

For me CloD is a really nice sim, no question!

Is it possible that the main focus of the devs is concentrating to the sequel?

I think they're doing it in parallel. I would imagine they will try to give us the minimum fixes to get the game stable and playable but without much more content. Alongside that they'll be doing everything they can to get BOM out the door to bring in more money. The workload for BOM won't be anything like CLOD as once they've got the engine working properly it's just a matter of maps and cockpits etc.

Then they can give us things that were promised for CLOD like dynamic weather? Better AI? and other improvements.

I'm not holding out too much for the next couple if they fix the crashes and make sure the Fm is right then that's a start!

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Hood

This thread isn't about any of the CloD problems - we all know what these are. It's about rebuilding the fan base/developer relationship and BoM providing a great opportunity to do so. You could even do this with CloD if the will to do so is there.

Hood

Unfortunately the animosity has gone both ways, between the developer and community in the past few years. The biggest problem is some in the community not understanding the difference between what the developer is trying to achieve and a promise in past updates. Now the developers have to be very careful on how they word every statement, but that doesn't work either, when they state there is no promise with this particular features, its ALWAYS thrown back in their face as a PROMISE later.

A week goes by very slowly for the community, but its a nanosecond for the developer. A bi-weekly update might work, but I just as soon they wait until they had something worth reporting.

Hopefully in the next year the game engine will be optimized and it will be more just a matter of adding content, rather than a Keystone Cop's fire drill.

[addman]

Hey Tree! You need to put your money where you mouth is. I actually sold my gaming rig last week because I wasn't playing CloD anymore (play all other games on my Xbox360, Wii or PSP). Figured I'd sell it while it was still worth something. I'm gonna build myself a mini-itx PC just for the heck of it and because it consumes about as much electricity as a 60 watt light bulb on full load. Back to Clod though, I'll still be around the boards and wait for Battle of Moscow to see how it will work out. To everyone else, you don't have to hear my "complaints" anymore since I don't even play the game, I guess those of you glass "half-full" people should be happy about this. Still be flying IL-2 though, especially now when the Pe-8 is flyable, hellz yeah!

P.S Kept the Samsung SSD for my soon to be mini PC

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Chivas

A week goes by very slowly for the community, but its a nanosecond for the developer. A bi-weekly update might work, but I just as soon they wait until they had something worth reporting.

Not for me it doesn`t. A week is just a week. 9 months passed by like nothing for me. Still waiting with optimism. I come here check every week, nothing. Cool. Back doing other stuff.

That said, I don`t think that if we are to get some major updates, those would be in BoM if it is ready in 2013. Either BoM comes out in a few months with all the vital updates for CloD or we get those updates earlier for CloD only. If not, well then what can I do about it.I got a job that`s made of dealines too, lots of them. And I can tell you dealines are something of the devil. You always run out of time to do it 100% right. That is how I see 1C struggling and that is why I have understanding for them. CloD shows the very same love for sims as ye olde IL2 and Luthier is one of the people that sustains this love, the attention to detail and realism. Right now I`m having some trouble understanding their priorities but I bet that is caused by not knowing what we aren`t allowed to know as customers.