Red Tails Trailer #3

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

I watch films that have great content storyline and believable characters, not the fact they made millions at the box office.




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+1 to that

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Unless you're willing to cover the difference between a $10 million box office and a $200 million box office, your opinion of the movie is mostly irrelevant.

To rate a movie purley by it's financial performance is missing the point.

Using that scale would make 'Transformers Dark of the moon' the 4th best film ever made... I can tell you, it aint. Nor is Avatar the best film ever made..

It's a soul-less way to judge a film. Some are chewing gum for the eyes, some are serious artistic pieces of work. Regardless of box office take.

As for Red Tails, it looks like a message movie, but at the end of the day when those boys were stepping off the ship back in the USA they were greeted with a sign that said 'Whites to the Left, Blacks to the right' so I don't really see how it can be all 'hell yeah'.

I'm sure the action sequences will be spectacular and I don't care about accurate FM, if all action films cared about the laws of physics then life would be pretty dull.. Remeber kids it's the movies, supension of belief and all that..

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

To rate a movie purley by it's financial performance is missing the point.

No, it's the ENTIRE point. Movies made for rivet counters don't make lots of money. That's why very few are made.

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

No, it's the ENTIRE point. Movies made for rivet counters don't make lots of money. That's why very few are made.

Like I said, if you're judging a movie purley based on what it took at the box office then you're making the exact same mistake as Hollywood is.

Who said anything about movies made for Rivet counters?
I'm talking..
Blade Runner, poor at the box office
Shawshank Redemption, bombed
Donnie Darko, 2 theatrical releases - took around a million (US).
The Big Lebowski, very average takings
Resevoir Dogs, 1.5 million(US)

Top 5 grossing movies of all time. (The best 5 movies ever made, if money is the ENTIRE point)
1. Avatar, jeez
2. Titanic, my heart won't go on..
3. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, people need to grow up.
4. Transformers Dark of the moon, obviously waaay better than Citizen Kane
5. Lord of the Rings Return of the king, it... never... ends..

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

Top 5 grossing movies of all time. (The best 5 movies ever made, if money is the ENTIRE point)

It is the ENTIRE point. It's the only way we have to determine if lots of people like the movie. Whether or not it's a "good" movie is just your opinion. I thought Blade Runner sucked.

[David Hayward]

Speaking of great movies...

Moonrise Kingdom

I'll let you figure it out.

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It is the ENTIRE point. It's the only way we have to determine if lots of people like the movie. Whether or not it's a "good" movie is just your opinion. I thought Blade Runner sucked.

No it's the only way to determine how many people went to see it or how many people bought the marketing campaign, nobody knows how many liked it. I saw Avatar and Titanic at the cinema, hated them both, according to you I liked both these films because I paid to see them.

Why have the Academy Awards? We don't need opinion getting in the way of making billions of dollars. Just give all the Oscars to the highest grossing movie of the year, job done.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

No it's the only way to determine how many people went to see it or how many people bought the marketing campaign, nobody knows how many liked it. I saw Avatar and Titanic at the cinema, hated them both, according to you I liked both these films because I paid to see them.

Why have the Academy Awards? We don't need opinion getting in the way of making billions of dollars. Just give all the Oscars to the highest grossing movie of the year, job done.

I never said that everyone who goes to a movie likes it, but it's certainly the best indication of how many people liked a movie. The Oscars are just the opinions of a well-connected group of people.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

As for Red Tails, it looks like a message movie, but at the end of the day when those boys were stepping off the ship back in the USA they were greeted with a sign that said 'Whites to the Left, Blacks to the right' so I don't really see how it can be all 'hell yeah'.

His view that it's a "hell yeah USA" movie is idiotic. It's really an anti-1940s USA movie.