Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by Ploughman

I think you're missing some of the plus points of the Battle of Moscow.

1. It's of central interest to 1Cs core customer base; the Russian market, meaning more people will invest in the game and keep the thing going.

2. By this emphasis on the core market Luthier is commiting himself to meeting the technical needs of the sim's core base which tends to have less capable machines to run this sim on than those of us in the west.

It is a known fact that the Russian Market is 1C's largest market segment? My educated guess would have been North America, assuming CLOD had the same demographics as IL-2.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer

It is a known fact that the Russian Market is 1C's largest market segment? My educated guess would have been North America, assuming CLOD had the same demographics as IL-2.

Educated guess on what basis? gut feeling? If North America was 1C's largest market then how is it that throughout IL2's life North America has always been last to see a release?

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer

It is a known fact that the Russian Market is 1C's largest market segment? My educated guess would have been North America, assuming CLOD had the same demographics as IL-2.

The Russian market is huge, considering the number of players. But the game 3-5 times more expensive in EU/US. So, I do not think that any of the market would be more important than the other, if you look at the business aspects.

I think it really matter that the Russian community is much more hostile than we are (it said Luthier), then he will choose a theme, which is closer to them. But not just them, i prefer the BoM too. I really look forward instead of bleak desert maps with LW, RAI, RAF types... again... little bored...

[BigC208]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

I really look forward instead of bleak desert maps with LW, RAI, RAF types... again... little bored...

I'm with you on this one. With the amount of detailed ground vehicles and objects BoM is going to be a bonanza for ground pounding. Even the older Russian aircraft could be dangerous to ground troops. Be fun protecting either side's ground troops. Even more fun hedge hopping and strafing collumns of infantry and support vehicles in a Rata with 20mm canon and rockets.

Reality is , as long as they release a SDK where you can make new maps with new textures , even islands - we wont really need expansions apart from new aircraft. The mod community can do it all and probably better as can be seen in most games.

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by BigC208

I'm with you on this one. With the amount of detailed ground vehicles and objects BoM is going to be a bonanza for ground pounding. Even the older Russian aircraft could be dangerous to ground troops. Be fun protecting either side's ground troops. Even more fun hedge hopping and strafing collumns of infantry and support vehicles in a Rata with 20mm canon and rockets.

I fear we will not see any grunts in BoM.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by BigC208

I'm with you on this one. With the amount of detailed ground vehicles and objects BoM is going to be a bonanza for ground pounding. Even the older Russian aircraft could be dangerous to ground troops. Be fun protecting either side's ground troops. Even more fun hedge hopping and strafing collumns of infantry and support vehicles in a Rata with 20mm canon and rockets.

90% of the I-16 (and all of the I-153) were ShKAS-armed versions. In 1941 the ShVAK-armed types were as rare as a win in the lottery and only from 1942 on I-16 were modified with heavier armament by the frontline units.

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

The Russian market is huge, considering the number of players. But the game 3-5 times more expensive in EU/US. So, I do not think that any of the market would be more important than the other, if you look at the business aspects.

I think it really matter that the Russian community is much more hostile than we are (it said Luthier), then he will choose a theme, which is closer to them. But not just them, i prefer the BoM too. I really look forward instead of bleak desert maps with LW, RAI, RAF types... again... little bored...

Although, geographically speaking the approach to Moscow is nothing exciting to look at. Historically speaking the battle took place from October 1941 thru January 1942. Much of the landscape will be snow covered for a large percentage of the conflict, very similar to desert landscape.
If we get the" dynamic weather" feature this would add some interest to both a BOM and the Med.
I am not certain why BOM was choosen next, but my guess would be it requires less development then the PTO or Med. Refering to a simple map with no shipping and the requsite Naval and supply vessels. It would be much more interesting to me to have the antishiiping missions with the Italian and LW aircraft. The ground engagments in the Med were also significant, but would require additional British and US vehicles,along with Italian, US, RAF aircraft.

[xpzorg]

Quite amusing to read the opinion of western consumers about what should be next.
I am russian consumer and I know pretty little about med conflict, it's not really interesting for me. In sukhoi all happy about choose conflict for sequel.
I just wish you to wait interesting for you conflict.

Alright chaps, just returned from a rather lenghty ban for 'not learning my lesson', probably deserved, although I cant see it listed in the forum rules anywhere!! So whats been happening, should I learn my lesson and put all my trust back into Luthier and this game or is it the same old dissappointments and waiting for patches/news?

Oh and Merry Christmas one and all