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Old 12-21-2011, 01:24 PM
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I'd personally ask myself what for.
Offline it's everyone's own can of beer whether to use modified FM/DM sets or not.
Online if you're afraid to face players using edited FM/DM, just join crt=2 servers. You can be sure that there's no chance for them to join such kind of server.
Cheats like the famous "radar" thing are much more of a concern there.

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Old 12-24-2011, 08:45 PM
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I'd personally ask myself what for.
Offline it's everyone's own can of beer whether to use modified FM/DM sets or not.
Online if you're afraid to face players using edited FM/DM, just join crt=2 servers. You can be sure that there's no chance for them to join such kind of server.
CRT=2 is not a protection since the game is hacked. Still, as Caspar said, we don't have the plans to re-encrypt the game again,if community doesn't mind cheaters we don't mind either.
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Old 12-25-2011, 04:23 PM
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CRT=2 is not a protection since the game is hacked.
Which has what to do with each other?
I assume you know about crt=2 workflow?

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Old 12-25-2011, 10:21 PM
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Which has what to do with each other?
I assume you know about crt=2 workflow?
If you know how CRT works than why you are asking the first question?
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:33 AM
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If you know how CRT works than why you are asking the first question?
One of us obviously just doesn't know what he's talking about
Consequently, it just doesn't make sense to go on discussing about it.
TD doesn't plan to apply any additional encryption, that's fine, halleluja, happy holidays and bottoms up!

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Old 12-26-2011, 01:50 AM
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...we don't have the plans to re-encrypt the game again,if community doesn't mind cheaters we don't mind either.
And there's the attitude we know and love.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ.
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Old 12-26-2011, 05:08 AM
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Don't get too worked up. It was just an off the cuff remark, not scripture.
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:12 AM
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I know, but without the use of smiles its impossible to tell for certain, lol!
I'd find it hard to believe that anyone still held that sort of assinine, backward view anymore.
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:44 AM
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I know, but without the use of smiles its impossible to tell for certain, lol!
I'd find it hard to believe that anyone still held that sort of assinine, backward view anymore.
Do you want the game to be encrypted? I guess not, so what is the problem? If you want to believe that nobody cheats , that's fine with me. But in the end this doesn't change the fact that cheating in hacked game is much easier than in an encrypted game. I demonstrated that to WarClouds server owner Sparx way back in Aug 28, 2007 to be precise.

And history of Il2 tells us that some people and squads did whatever they could to cheat when cheating was much harder than now. You want me to believe that all of them now turned into saints? C'mon, I'm not that naive.

Bottom line is,play whatever you want to play, mod whatever you want to mod and cheat if you want, I don't care. But I would like to know why some people want to maintain the illusion that cheating doesn't exist? That kind of attitude only helps cheaters so it is reasonable to believe that cheaters have the strongest motive to maintain that illusion, isn't it?
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Old 12-27-2011, 02:44 PM
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cheating in hacked game is much easier than in an encrypted game. I demonstrated that to WarClouds server owner Sparx way back in Aug 28, 2007 to be precise.
Warclouds is a prominent example of crt=0 mod enabled servers. Nobody ever said that it would be hard to "cheat" (whatever you call "cheating") on such kind of servers.
Join me on a crt=2 server, demonstrate the vulnerability there and I'll be your captivated observer. I'd owe you a beer even if you'd succeed on a crt=1 server.

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I would like to know why some people want to maintain the illusion that cheating doesn't exist?
Tell us who did.
Quite opposite I tell you again that unless the communication between server and client gets encrypted in an effective way, you won't get rid of users of the famous online "Radar" cheat, no matter what encryption you apply to the game itself.

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it is reasonable to believe that cheaters have the strongest motive to maintain that illusion
I don't get what you mean. Please express yourself clearly.

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