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Old 12-20-2011, 03:34 PM
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Another question is which version of the F-35 is it? The one that hovers? The Air force one? Or the Navy type(carrier landing)?
Quite true...obviously all 3 would be tasked to do different roles primarily but I do see it as a formidable interceptor.

I wouldn't even put the Spit11a against it )
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:50 PM
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I'd be surprised if the Russians create anything World beating, especially as India are involved. Thanks India, all those billions the UK give you in 'aid' and you spend it on Russians.

Bastards.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:58 PM
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I'd be surprised if the Russians create anything World beating, especially as India are involved. Thanks India, all those billions the UK give you in 'aid' and you spend it on Russians.

Bastards.
Hve Japan and India decided to merge their territory ? If no thx to all the money your gov spent in education for such a poor misunderstanding and vulgar comments

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- I am not indian (can't do any yoga even trying hard )
- Ok the gov money spent in education can be fairly low especially if you are from the UK
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:03 PM
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80M$ for an F35 that's cheap (the famous price gap where Typhies and Raf trapped themself - a huge demo of "how to shot down your own fighter) !!! But is this amount include spares, engines and weapons ?

For those that say that the F35 is not a fighter, just remember those saying that the 16 was not a capable fighter.

Serious air force rely entirely on this GenDyn/Lockheed design since years.

Thx for posting the info btw
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:45 AM
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Quite true...obviously all 3 would be tasked to do different roles primarily but I do see it as a formidable interceptor.
Really?
It's slow as hell, and it can't turn - but hey, in the commercial they said: "Let the missiles do the turning for you."

What they didn't say is - what happens if this trick doesn't work...


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I'd be surprised if the Russians create anything World beating, especially as India are involved.
Russians had always, concerning aerodynamics, the edge over western counterparts.
They "only" sucked in Avionics and build quality - but that's something you can fix.
Btw, I was surprised the Iranians could take over a CIA drone - maybe the western electronic edge is no more.

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Old 12-21-2011, 02:38 AM
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Really?
Btw, I was surprised the Iranians could take over a CIA drone - maybe the western electronic edge is no more.
If by "take over" you mean find out where it crashed, then yes, "they took it over".
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:10 AM
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If by "take over" you mean find out where it crashed, then yes, "they took it over".

The Iranians hacked the drones GPS and reprogrammed it to land at one of their airbases when its comms link was jammed and it went into automatic go home mode. So yes, they took it over.

Video feeds from drones have been intercepted by insurgents in both Iraq and Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8419147.stm
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:04 AM
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The Iranians hacked the drones GPS and reprogrammed it to land at one of their airbases when its comms link was jammed and it went into automatic go home mode. So yes, they took it over.

Video feeds from drones have been intercepted by insurgents in both Iraq and Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8419147.stm
The video feed and the the guidance connection are two entirely different animals. The vid feed is open for ease of access to ground troops and whatever friendly forces are in the area. They've known about this for years, but it is not in any way a danger to the UAV.

The guidance systems are heavily encrypted and were not hacked, and it did no land anywhere, it crashed. The Iranians were given tons of Russian jamming equipment for just this sort of situation. When they knew there was a UAV in the area they turned all their jamming equipment to max to that every signal was blocked and you couldn't even make a cell phone call if you were on top of a cell tower. The drone lost connection, and did a circling pattern while it tried to regain connection with home. When it ran out of gas it crashed (mostly intact) and now the Iranians have a massive propaganda tool and have probably already sold the parts to China and Russia so they can try and reverse engineer things.

They in no way "hacked" that drone.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:32 AM
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@Speculum jockey
Obviously it's not only the Iranians who are subjects to propaganda. I probably knows as little as you do about the incident but: It did not happen that way!

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Old 12-22-2011, 02:59 AM
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This drone have no sensitive stealth tech (see the drone histo).
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