ATAG Dedicated Server is up!

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos

It is 5 airplanes, 5 frigging airplanes!!!!

C'mon guys, get over it!!!!

1 vs 1 is bad news I agree. So, don't!
I got killed a lot of times in a Spit II vs three Bf109.
Yesterday, I think I shot 2-3 SpitII flying solo in my Bf109.

There is nothing more, nothing less.

And so many posts for 5 planes (which get vulched mercilesly 90% of the time before take off) it not worth it!

my 2cents...

It is hilarious. I was online on Sunday and it was about 20 vs 20. 14, yes 14, of the 109's were E4's and 4 were E3's. Only 2 E1's. Funny, I don't remember seeing any historical accuracy complaints about that.

For the record I have not read of one incident from WW2 where the 109 could hang on 45 degrees from CO-e and watch the Spitfire fall away helplessly. In actual fact the opposite is more likely true given that the standard escape for a Spitfire was a steep climbing turn.

I trust therefore that we won't hear any complaints when you can no longer use this tactic.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Osprey

It is hilarious. I was online on Sunday and it was about 20 vs 20. 14, yes 14, of the 109's were E4's and 4 were E3's. Only 2 E1's. Funny, I don't remember seeing any historical accuracy complaints about that.

For the record I have not read of one incident from WW2 where the 109 could hang on 45 degrees from CO-e and watch the Spitfire fall away helplessly. In actual fact the opposite is more likely true given that the standard escape for a Spitfire was a steep climbing turn.

I trust therefore that we won't hear any complaints when you can no longer use this tactic.

It's been an education. Just flew an hour on the ATAG server -- more changes! Nasty surprises over both sides' airfields -- and historical!

[Hellbender]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

It's been an education. Just flew an hour on the ATAG server -- more changes! Nasty surprises over both sides' airfields -- and historical!

What changes ???

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Hellbender

What changes ???

I don't want to spoil anyone's surprise by divulging that information over the 'net -- that would be unfair. Log in and you'll find both chat and Teamspeak buzzing about it, developing new tactics in response. It took me by surprise as well since I'm not party to the inner workings of the ATAG server. It's good stuff for both sides, but very challenging.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Gunnery settings on the defiants are rediculous. I lag rolled over them at 400KMH and was dead in 10 seconds... Then my wingman attacked and was killed in the same amount of time...

The defiant was pulled out because it was a failure, otherwise they would have just made large aircraft with lots of turrets... So to get raped by 2 daffies on a sunday stroll is more than annoying.

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Gunnery settings on the defiants are rediculous. I lag rolled over them at 400KMH and was dead in 10 seconds... Then my wingman attacked and was killed in the same amount of time...

The defiant was pulled out because it was a failure, otherwise they would have just made large aircraft with lots of turrets... So to get raped by 2 daffies on a sunday stroll is more than annoying.

This has happened many times before?

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Gunnery settings on the defiants are rediculous. I lag rolled over them at 400KMH and was dead in 10 seconds...

+1
The gunners of the Defiants are snippers c'mmon, this is like the turret gunners of the Mitchells in IL2...


Apart from that, GREAT FUN

~S~

PS. IvanK thanks for the informative scans!

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos

+1
The gunners of the Defiants are snippers c'mmon, this is like the turret gunners of the Mitchells in IL2...

Agreed. NASTY snipers!!!!! Not so good on frontal or lower approaches, though. Speaking of Snipers, there was one very accomplished Rotol pilot warning the rest of us about the "sh|t storm" he ignited when he strafed a Blue airfield......

[klem]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Gunnery settings on the defiants are rediculous. I lag rolled over them at 400KMH and was dead in 10 seconds... Then my wingman attacked and was killed in the same amount of time...

The defiant was pulled out because it was a failure, otherwise they would have just made large aircraft with lots of turrets... So to get raped by 2 daffies on a sunday stroll is more than annoying.

10 seconds is quite a long time. I haven't flown against the Defiants but did you know that is a four gun rotating rear/upward facing turret which shredded the 109s before they learned to attack it from the front? (no front guns on the Defiant) It wasn't the one-gun limited traverse of the He111 etc.

It was pulled out once the 109s avoided the rear quarter and knocked them down from the forward quarter.

[jg27_mc]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

It's been an education. Just flew an hour on the ATAG server -- more changes! Nasty surprises over both sides' airfields -- and historical!

Positive changes IMHO. For the first time flying ATAG I fought over France against 4 British fighters. It seems it reduced the pressure of red flying/fighting (and most of the times dying) over England. It gives a dynamic pace to the server as well. I have read something about Defiants stating that LW 109's had terrible losses till they figured out the rules of engagement against them (never engage their 6).

Regards.