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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
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this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:14 PM
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Since you provide no evidence it is the wrong choice. ie. prove there are no bugs.
Ah.. Now I see why your so upset!

You seem to be under the impression that I said there are no bugs! Which is not true at all! All I am saying is that per Maus's definition of bugs CoD does not qualify as being called a 'alpha' product. I hope that helps clear things up for you and allows you to calm down a bit

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I still choose C End of argument.
I disagree.. it ended a few posts back when you were unable to provide '1' example
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:20 PM
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Ah.. Now I see why your so upset!

You seem to be under the impression that I said there are no bugs! Which is not true at all! All I am saying is that per Maus's definition of bugs CoD does not qualify as being called a 'alpha' product. I hope that helps clear things up for you and allows you to calm down a bit


I disagree.. it ended a few posts back when you were unable to provide '1' example
I still choose C Most fits CoD And I'm not upset.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:33 PM
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I've never experienced a crash or freeze with COD, but I have a relatively highend system, with very few background programs running. Infact I run COD on a separate SSD with only a copy of Windows 7 64bit, and Hotas peripherals installed on it. My every day computing is done on different HHD. I just reboot my system to the COD SSD whenever I want to fly. Until the sim is better optimized your going to need a very clean fast system to experience less problems other than feature issues. SSD's aren't that expensive anymore. You can easily pick one up under a hundred dollars. Unfortunately combat flight sims have always required high end systems if you want to run it with all the bells and whistles turned on.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:54 PM
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I've never experienced a crash or freeze with COD, but I have a relatively highend system, with very few background programs running. Infact I run COD on a separate SSD with only a copy of Windows 7 64bit, and Hotas peripherals installed on it. My every day computing is done on different HHD. I just reboot my system to the COD SSD whenever I want to fly. Until the sim is better optimized your going to need a very clean fast system to experience less problems other than feature issues. SSD's aren't that expensive anymore. You can easily pick one up under a hundred dollars. Unfortunately combat flight sims have always required high end systems if you want to run it with all the bells and whistles turned on.
I run it at 3.6 ghz and a GTX 580 with 6gigs of ram Win64, do you think my velociraptor is too slow for this sim and is causing all the stuttering?

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Old 12-06-2011, 03:34 AM
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I run it at 3.6 ghz and a GTX 580 with 6gigs of ram Win64, do you think my velociraptor is too slow for this sim and is causing all the stuttering?
I do get some slight stuttering when flying low over the London, but only when looking side ways over my wingtip at close trees and building going by. I can't prove anything, but I really think having the sim, copy of Windows, and Hota peripherals on a separate SSD helps. There is not alot of background apps taking up memory or cpu cycles, and its never searching my other drives for anything.

You may have some background apps or the harddrive needs defragging to cause your major stutter problems.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:06 PM
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I've never experienced a crash or freeze with COD, but I have a relatively highend system, with very few background programs running.
Same here.. Well ok I do recall the game locking up maybe a handful of times.. but that was so long ago I don't even remember which patch it was that happened with

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Infact I run COD on a separate SSD with only a copy of Windows 7 64bit, and Hotas peripherals installed on it. My every day computing is done on different HHD.
Me too! And it is my opinion that the reason I don't see the stutters that most are reporting has alot to do with the fact that I am using a SSD.

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I just reboot my system to the COD SSD whenever I want to fly.
I have not done that yet.. Next time I do a clean up Im going to do the duel boot thing

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Until the sim is better optimized your going to need a very clean fast system to experience less problems other than feature issues.
Agreed 100%

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SSD's aren't that expensive anymore. You can easily pick one up under a hundred dollars.
True dat

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Unfortunately combat flight sims have always required high end systems if you want to run it with all the bells and whistles turned on.
Bingo!

This is not a cheap 'hobby'.. Flight sims are not your run of the mill eye candy game that only requires a good vid card.. Flight sims are typically much more demanding on your PC resorces than most games
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:01 PM
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I still choose C
Just to be crystal.. I never said you could not choose 'C'! You are more than welcome to your opinion! All I was pointing out is your choice of 'C' ake opinion has no merits! As in nothing to back up the claim that CoD qualifies as an 'alpha' product.

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Most fits CoD
IYO not IMO

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And I'm not upset.
Ah that is good news! I am glad to hear you figured out what API means!
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:02 AM
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Ah that is good news! I am glad to hear you figured out what API means!
Snippy comment dude. Attitude not appreciated.

Always did. DX 11 is a collection of application programming interfaces (APIs) for handling tasks related to multimedia, especially game programming and video, on Microsoft platforms.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:13 AM
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Snippy comment dude. Attitude not appreciated.
What attitude?

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Always did. DX 11 is a collection of application programming interfaces (APIs) for handling tasks related to multimedia, especially game programming and video, on Microsoft platforms.
Nope!

Your still missing it!

Allow me to clear this up for you..

Note in that link you provided it says

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DX 10 and DX 11 API support
If what your saying was true, than that statement would imply 1C used 'both' the DX 10 API and DX 11 API in software development..

Which any programer will tell you is silly! Especially in light of the fact that the DX 11 API includes everything the DX 10 API contained and more!

Now that that is out of the way.. Read it again with an open mind and you should see that statement is saying..

1) CoD is a game that runs DX 10 'feature levels'
2) CoD is a game that is programmed using the DX 11 API

Two very different things!!

And at that same link you provided, under the PC CONFIGURATION Tab it says

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VIDEO CARD: DirectX® 9.0c compliant, 512Mb Video Card (1GB DirectX® 10 recommended)
Not DirectX® 11 recommended

Thus CoD was never advertised as a DX 11 'capable' game (as you were trying to imply in your inital posts)

By capable I mean capable of making use of the DX 11 'feature levels'

Hope that helps! S!
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:19 AM
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If what you say is accurate, at the very least Ubi is being very misleading by saying "New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support. Latest Gen would be DX11 draphics. Very misleading at best.

Now I'm going to end it here, I don't have time to post as frequently here as you do. LOL

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