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02-19-2008, 02:10 PM
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One request Saumon - refrain from posting images upon images. This makes reading the thread and getting its "core" rather difficult. I already "bailed out" of the thread at Ubi because of the image flood. Thx.
 IMO the BoF is a prime candidate for a full-blown AddOn by Maddox Games (unused topic, interesting types etc). However I disagree on the notion that a load of obscure aircraft types should be modeled - most of them french. For the LW it's easy. There were basically three subtypes of the Bf 109 which formed the backbone of the Luftwaffe fighter force at that time - Bf 109 E-1, E-3 and the first E-4s (although they wouldn't be really necessary - E-3 was much more numerous). The French Air Force had a lot more types but I think concentrating on the historically relevant types - Hawk H.75, MB 152, MS.406 and D.520 - is a lot more sensible than looking up each and any pre-series model or prototype France had in development at the time of the german attack. Why? Because there are french bombers to model, too. And some earlier german ones. And earlier british aircraft. And ground objects. And ... *sigh* ... You get my drift. Last edited by csThor; 02-19-2008 at 02:12 PM. 
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02-20-2008, 12:42 AM
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@Freddie: no, both planes are not related
@Thor: I agree with you. Arsenal VG33 could have only a place in a "what-if"... if one day all necessary aircraft for BoF are modelled (something I highly doubt...) then and only then people could start to think on "what-if" planes. .... but in any case, IL2 has shown that no third-party 3D-modellers are interested by BoF (only exception was the external model of the H75)... and we all know M:1C will not do it... so the probability BoF will ever see the day is extremelly low.
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02-20-2008, 07:55 PM
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02-20-2008, 10:24 PM
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The only good news would be if a third-party team announce that they will develop the D520. at my knowing, it's not the case today. ... so far... the D520 model for SoW is in oblivion.
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02-25-2008, 10:17 PM
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TBH, from what he wrote it's not really clear at all 
Last edited by Schwarz.13; 02-25-2008 at 10:18 PM. Reason: punctuation - i'm anally retentive hehe
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02-26-2008, 09:00 AM
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Actually I think third party developpers are interested, but as long as they don't get any infos on how to build a plane in SoW, of course they can't do anything.
I'm expecting a BoF addon for so long already in IL2. I always asked me why they lost time to model fantasy planes or prototypes and not plane that actually saw action during maybe only 6 months of the war, but at least were really existing. I want a D520 or a MB152 flyable. And a MS406 if possible. And at least one french twin engine (but please not the Amiot 143....)
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02-28-2008, 11:39 AM
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with the planned 3.party tool it will be possible in the SoW engine............. but, with the needed time to modell the highly detailed stuff (planes, groundobjects, maps) for the SoW engine, at least at a good standard  , im looking forward highly curious what the time will bring from the 3.party modellers !!a project like a planned BoF scenario, i guess, that would need a lot of teamwork. and actually i guess, the first 3.party stuff for SoW will look more like the "typical wanted" Mustang and late Spitcrowd......................................... ..... 3.Party guys are free in their time and will what to choose to modell - thats good and correct , but not always to my (very) personal desire  and in SoW they even NOT have to ask the Maddox guys if they would include thier stuff in the gameengine. And we all know what even this kind of work brought in the game , from the viewpoint of an historical interested flightsimmer
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02-28-2008, 12:20 PM
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Well, I think that 3rd party would firstly try to develop 1 aircraft with cockpit and the rest in AI for a start.
So I guess the D.520 or the MS406 would have good chances to be the first french aircraft modelized with cockpit and 2 or 3 others would be just modelized with no cockpit (surely the twin-engine models). I think most of the developpers wouldn't mind spending so much time on an aircraft as soon as they know that their plane will be implemented in the game. I know that the standard is high and that we will need to wait 1 year per aircraft type, but hey, at least we can hope to get them in 5 years ! IL2 is 7 years old now and will be 8 or 9 when SoW will be released, so I guess I can hope to see my aircraft flying in it on day. (we had so weird aircraft modelized.... P11, Lerche, Ta183, A5m that had actually even less service during WWII than any french plane). So someone will surely model a french fighter at the end !
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07-24-2009, 09:28 AM
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I like to fly with Yak3 in IL2 especially Yak3P with 3 cannon. I'm not so talented for dogfight and Yak3 is very forgiving plane .
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