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Old 02-11-2008, 02:14 AM
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A little question:

what modifications of Bf110 will be presented in SoW: Only Bf110C-4 or more?

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IF it will be a C-4 , means that it has MG-FF/M (C-2 with MG-FF)...................................

and actually i cant imagine a BoB sim in this quality without the german Jabo raids, means without Bf110C-?/B (aka C-7) for the ErpGrp 210 and Bf109E-?/B

i heavily doubt we will see a 110C-6 or any DB601N driven 109s or 110s.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:56 AM
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IF it will be a C-4 , means that it has MG-FF/M (C-2 with MG-FF).
Beleive me I know the differense Working on Zerstorer research for many years

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and actually i cant imagine a BoB sim in this quality without the german Jabo raids, means without Bf110C-?/B (aka C-7) for the ErpGrp 210 and Bf109E-?/B
I am talking directly about Erprobungsgruppe 210, You areright This gruppe began BoB (with strike on shipping and radar stations) and were almost the last "day bombers over England" in 1940. This unit flew combat missions more often then all other Bf110 units and had not so huge losses.

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i heavily doubt we will see a 110C-6 or any DB601N driven 109s or 110s.
Erpr.Gr.210 NEVER did not used C-7 during BoB.

1./Erpr.Gr.210 was equipped with 12 Bf110C-6 till mid august 1940, then received Bf110D-0/B (but C-6 were still held with unit untill SKG 210 time);
2./Erpr.Gr.210 - only Bf110D-0/B;
3./Erpr.Gr.210 - Bf109E-1/B, E-3/B, E-4/B.

Also, C-4/B was NEVER prodused. Losslists of ZG 2, ZG 26, ZG 76, SKG 210, ZG 1 in did not match Bf110C-4/B during 1940-1942.

Bf110C-7 was a prototype serye for Bf110E.

On my signature: Bf110D-0/B, Obltn Martin Lutz, StaKa 1./Erpr.Gr.210, august 1940.

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Old 02-11-2008, 12:27 PM
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as we most propably will be not on par with the "namecalling" of the different Bf110 versions (caused most propably simply in reading different books ) we for sure have the same opinion that SoW:BoB will need Bf110s that are able to carry bombs - and 109 too btw

and actually, i trust Maddox Games in that.

as i said, i dont expect versions with DB601N engine ore the C-6 with its 30mm MK101 canon.
the times of "lot of versions of one planetype" like in IL2 are over in the SoW i guess.... concentrating of the most important/used versions in the specific Battle (here BoB) is the way to go i belive - good decission in my opinion
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Yes, but note: most of books about Zerstorer were published in mid 1990's, and only last books (for example John Vasco's) veiwing many new facts about it.

To be honest, i expect 2 modifications of Bf110 in SoW C-4 and D-0/B.

C-4 was main part of II./ZG 76, III./ZG 76, and I./ZG. ZG 26 used mix of C-1 to C-4.
D-0/B were in Erpr.Gr.210, II./ZG 2, V.(Z)/LG 1;
D-1 were in I./ZG 76 (but actually it flew only 1 raid during BoB).

About JaBo Bf109 - hmm... each 3rd Staffle of each JG was converted in JaBo staffle of october - I hope it is enough to let BLUE side to have JaBo in future game Also, 3./Erpr.Gr.210 flew JaBo from july 1940, and II.(Schl.)/LG 2 received first series of Bf109E-7 in september
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i know , Vasco is from 2002 and Mankau/Petrick from 2001
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But Kagero book is seems to be reprint With additional thouthands of mistakes
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Dear Oleg,

Is it known if the Spitfire and the Hurricane mkIs will be modeled with the 3-bladed De Havilland Constant Speed Propeller? both planes were fitted with them starting in June 1940... Or will the sim start at an earlier date and therefore have both the older 3-bladed 2-pitch DH Hamilton propeller and the later constant speed DH?

also are you planning on including the Spitfire mkII? squadrons started conversion to them in September '40.
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About JaBo Bf109 - hmm... each 3rd Staffle of each JG was converted in JaBo staffle of october - I hope it is enough to let BLUE side to have JaBo in future game Also, 3./Erpr.Gr.210 flew JaBo from july 1940, and II.(Schl.)/LG 2 received first series of Bf109E-7 in september
Erm no ... It was not every 3rd, 6th and 9th Staffel but one Staffel in each Gruppe was converted to the Jabo role. Which Staffel was up to the Gruppe.
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Yep, I mean 1 Staffel (of 3 ) from each Gruppe For example Oblt. Viktor Moelders (ex-1./ZG 1 ace) was StaKa 2./JG 51, and it was JaBo Staffel
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:43 PM
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I have a question about the new DM system for Oleg.

Will the radiator's of liquid cooled aircraft be modeled? It was a very big target, if not one of the biggest and easiest in WWII, and the fact that its not modeled in IL2-1946 is puzzling.

Will other targets be modeled? Like LOX or O2 bottles?

Currently, hitting an ammo box full of HE rounds only results in an ammo jam. Will ammo boxes explode in the new DM system?
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