'Red Tails' New WW2 movie coming out ;)

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Just seeing the clip of the P-51 doing an Su27 style backflip is enough for me to leave well alone.

yep, unfortunately you can find such bull **** in all aviation movies...But I dont mind because it couldnt be worse than Pearl Harbour....actually I think its a decent movie..

[335th_GRExandas]

Man!!!
What ever movie they can produce about WW2 allied pilots will not get the
feeling.

German Aces where fighting 4 straight years over all europe and africa continent THERE IS THE PILOTS REAL FEELING.

Especially the last desperate years when 100 GAF pilots where opposing
1000 well fed napped and fair treated American pilots in their shiny new P51s.

100 war dogs which usually bit the odds and returned back home with 2-3 kills
and obliged to take off back again in 10 mins the most.

Maaan that's is a feeling of a pilot.

Originally Posted by 335th_GRExandas

Man!!!
What ever movie they can produce about WW2 allied pilots will not get the
feeling.

German Aces where fighting 4 straight years over all europe and africa continent THERE IS THE PILOTS REAL FEELING.

Especially the last desperate years when 100 GAF pilots where opposing
1000 well fed napped and fair treated American pilots in their shiny new P51s.

100 war dogs which usually bit the odds and returned back home with 2-3 kills
and obliged to take off back again in 10 mins the most.

Maaan that's is a feeling of a pilot.

last two years americans were fighting more or less - youngsters from the LW...they were easy prey....+ as you said, the numbers were in favour of allies.....but the story of this movie is pretty much right on the spot since it was the known fact that the tuskegee airmen (who didnt got an approval for cover missions at first) were the most successful group in defending the bombers...

[trumps]

LOL, I thought this was another new starwars episode, they seem to have the same guy sorting out the physics of flight and Cgi for both. I would rather watch my old collection of black&white war movies and watch model planes sliding down a just visible wire guide than see more of this politically corrected
Cgi crap!
Hopefully Peter Jackson's new dam busters is better, at least he has a genuine interest in aviation!

Craig

[bongodriver]

Hopefully Peter Jackson's new dam busters is better, at least he has a genuine interest in aviation!

I'm starting to feel that nothing will come of Dambusters, he is too distracted by making TinTin and Hobbit movies.

[335th_GRExandas]

Heinz Knoke was dodging 5 P47 for about an hour (only to escape)
bit that fear.

Tuskegee airmen where very good only because they had racial issues.
They forced to prove things that days, just for the American society.

[Sternjaeger II]

Let's not forget this is a film about race pride set in a WW2 context, not an aviation film per se.. but anyway, I would give it a shot and see what it's like, although I find this race card thing a bit of a cliché at times if not played correctly.. we already have a movie about the Tuskegee Airmen, then there's the movie Miracle at St. Anna..

I wish Hollywood had some guts or there was someone crazy enough to invest in telling the stories of other pilots, like the long serving German aces or the Japanese ones.. something comparable to Das Boot in terms of epic story.

[bongodriver]

Problem there Stern is that the Americans for the most part have no interest in stories that aren't their own, hence why the film about the capture of the enigma was 'americanised', or the next Battle of Britain movie was set to feature 'Billy Fiske' saving europe, may as well suggest making a movie glorifying Osama Bin Laden....it will have as much of a chance, it's not like the Tuskeege airmen were the first black combat pilots, the comonwealth forces had them and many others from other ethnic groups.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRExandas

Tuskegee airmen where very good only because they had racial issues.
They forced to prove things that days, just for the American society.

uh, what?

[Rjel]

I just love how U.S. pilots (actually all Allied pilots) contributions in WWII are continually trivialized by those fans of the Luftwaffe. Tell me, what was the better strategy? Flying high scoring Aces until they dropped or continually turning over your forces so you had combat trained instructors teaching those who followed? It obviously wasn't just loads of pilots and planes that turned the tide for the Allies. Remember the Russians had scads of both in 1941. It didn't do them much good, did it?

When the Americans first started combat over Europe, the Luftwaffe still enjoyed local air superiority most days. Also, there weren't a thousand P-51s concentrated in one area of Germany at any given time. By most accounts I've read, all the USAAF fighter groups were staggered while they performed their escort duties. One group would escort a given part of a bomber stream until relieved by a fresher group. So the idea that a mere 100 Germans stood in the face of a thousand P-51s is BS. They might have faced a 1000 bombers in any given mission, but those were also strung out of a 100 mile long line.