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ElAurens · #1 10-24-2011, 11:17 AM

Wow, has this tread been totally derailed.

And there is no Hurri in the game that can catch a 109 at any altitude if the 109 driver decides to disengage. You guys that fly 109s know that.

The only time I have caught a 109 with my Hurri was when I had significant height advantage and turned all that into speed, and even then it is short lived as once the Hurri levels out it's like pushing a barn door through the air. If you are getting caught by Hurris, you are not extending away enough, or have grossly misjudged your and his energy state. Period.

Insuber · #2 10-24-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

Wow, has this tread been totally derailed.

And there is no Hurri in the game that can catch a 109 at any altitude if the 109 driver decides to disengage. You guys that fly 109s know that.

The only time I have caught a 109 with my Hurri was when I had significant height advantage and turned all that into speed, and even then it is short lived as once the Hurri levels out it's like pushing a barn door through the air. If you are getting caught by Hurris, you are not extending away enough, or have grossly misjudged your and his energy state. Period.

Maybe it's me, but last weekend I ran full throttle (auto prop pitch) for 10+ min across the channel at low alt on my 109 E-4 and a Hurri gaining on my 6 ... and 2 other 109's behind the Hurri, trying to catch up ... saved only by other 109s zooming the magic hurri. I started with high speed after a dive, and a comfortable margin, by the way. Hey it's not to whine (I don't care, my bad for ending up like that), but the FM is still seriously flawed. I will try to organise some tests.

CaptainDoggles · #3 10-24-2011, 03:33 PM

I'm all for conducting organized testing but we know the FM will be changed soon anyways... better to save our efforts for after the next patch don't you think?

bw_wolverine · #4 10-24-2011, 03:55 PM

Where speeds are concerned, keep in mind that not everyone here operates their plane with the same efficiency/methods. I like to THINK I'm getting the most out of my plane, but I'm sure there's someone else out there that can do more.

Nice to hear you're enjoying the game now El Aurens. CloD really does do a great job online.

6S.Manu · #5 10-24-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Insuber

Maybe it's me, but last weekend I ran full throttle (auto prop pitch) for 10+ min across the channel at low alt on my 109 E-4 and a Hurri gaining on my 6 ... and 2 other 109's behind the Hurri, trying to catch up ... saved only by other 109s zooming the magic hurri. I started with high speed after a dive, and a comfortable margin, by the way. Hey it's not to whine (I don't care, my bad for ending up like that), but the FM is still seriously flawed. I will try to organise some tests.

This is another thing that keeps me away from CloD.

Models are a bunch of numbers and we already witness that some FM numbers are not correct because of the plane's attitude: what about the data that we can't easily verify like the DM model?

Who does assure me that the developer has put "5" there like he should? And if he put another number why did he? He did voluntarily or not?... see the explosion range of the IL2's bombs...

Infact after 7 months they are tweaking the FM...

CaptainDoggles · #6 10-24-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

This is another thing that keeps me away from CloD.

Models are a bunch of numbers and we already witness that some FM numbers are not correct because of the plane's attitude: what about the data that we can't easily verify like the DM model?

Who does assure me that the developer has put a 5 there like he should? And if he put another number why did he? He did voluntarily or not?... see the explosion range of the IL2's bombs...

That keeps you away from Cliffs?

Well the same problem was there in IL2, right? But you bought it?

If you played IL2 then you should know that these developers are always willing to at least look at issues if there is evidence of a flaw. So if you think the DM has a flaw then conduct tests.

Jaws2002 · #7 10-24-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Insuber

Maybe it's me, but last weekend I ran full throttle (auto prop pitch) for 10+ min across the channel at low alt on my 109 E-4 and a Hurri gaining on my 6 ... and 2 other 109's behind the Hurri, trying to catch up ... saved only by other 109s zooming the magic hurri. I started with high speed after a dive, and a comfortable margin, by the way. Hey it's not to whine (I don't care, my bad for ending up like that), but the FM is still seriously flawed. I will try to organise some tests.

The auto pitch is too lazy. Don't be surprised you couldn't outrun a manually flown Rotol Hurri.
If you fly the 109 on manual, the Hurri can't get anywhere near you.

Don't blame the game for that. It was all you.

JG52Krupi · #8 10-24-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws2002

The auto pitch is too lazy. Don't be surprised you couldn't outrun a manually flown Rotol Hurri.
If you fly the 109 on manual, the Hurri can't get anywhere near you.

Don't blame the game for that. It was all you.

Agreed it was nice to not keep an eye on the PP for the first 5 mins then you realize how buggy it is... odd that I still use it

it still sticks at 12:00 and 8:30.

CaptainDoggles · #9 10-24-2011, 04:33 PM

I don't think it's buggy, I just think it reflects the limitations of the real system.

Jaws, what is the best configuration for best speed?

Flanker35M · #10 10-24-2011, 04:38 PM

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Bf109E-4 could outspeed, outdive, outclimb, roll faster than Hurricane. Hurricane could ONLY turn better. So really wondering the "super-Hurricane" in game almost beating the legendary Spitfire