What's up with the trains

ElAurens · #1 10-22-2011, 06:34 PM

If your bullets hit in the firebox area of the boiler and the crown sheet ruptured then indeed the loco could be blown off the tracks by the almost instant conversion of all the water into live steam and then exhausted into the cab of the loco.

Not real good for the crew though...

#2 10-22-2011, 06:41 PM

Sorry but when I see this scene where the P51 turns basically on the spot ... pffff. Someone said George Lucas? I say tie fighter ... says it all ...

NeroMoura · #3 10-22-2011, 07:07 PM

The pilot obviously mapped his trim on a slider... reasonable guess, at least.

Sven · #4 10-22-2011, 07:07 PM

CaptainDoggles · #5 10-24-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven

No kidding. Do people actually think a bullet can knock a train locomotive over? Do some math. What's the momentum of a 20mm round? What's the inertia of a train? Here's a hint: One is many orders of magnitude greater than the other.

If part of the train is exploding and the explosion pushes it off the tracks then the explosion pushes the train off the tracks, not the bullets.

This is the same as that "50 cals flipping over tiger tanks" nonsense.

DayGlow · #6 10-24-2011, 09:52 PM

I'll take real pilots testimony over an interweb hero any day on both accounts

CaptainDoggles · #7 10-24-2011, 09:58 PM

Pilots can be mistaken. You're probably one of those guys that reads an account saying "My spitfire turned inside the 109" without any info as to speed, altitude, or even which spitfire or which 109, and then decides that ALL spitfires must out-turn ALL 109s under ALL conditions.

That's the problem with blindly following pilot accounts.

It's not interweb heroics, it's mathematics. Math doesn't change from the 1940s to today. Memories given in post-war interviews do change.

DayGlow · #8 10-24-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Pilots can be mistaken. You're probably one of those guys that reads an account saying "My spitfire turned inside the 109" without any info as to speed, altitude, or even which spitfire or which 109, and then decides that ALL spitfires must out-turn ALL 109s under ALL conditions.

That's the problem with blindly following pilot accounts.

It's not interweb heroics, it's mathematics. Math doesn't change from the 1940s to today. Memories given in post-war interviews do change.

So our heros are liars then? How can we believe they shot a plane down, they could have been mistaken, hell they were probably in the infantry through the war and forgot and now believe they flew planes.

furbs · #9 10-24-2011, 10:01 PM

50 cals can flip Tigers right over!!

Sven · #10 10-24-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by furbs

50 cals can flip Tigers right over!!

I can even flip a King tigers over with a well aimed fart, Yankee P51 pilots sure as hell could!

I mean c'mon, Yankees won the war right?