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Old 02-02-2008, 03:38 PM
Feuerfalke Feuerfalke is offline
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:47 PM
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LMAO! Some one had to bring it up!

Meanwhile as for the "numbers". Don't have'em, don't know where to get'em, but I'm sure somebody out there, on either side, who has even less of a life than I and could do a 4.08/Real Stats climb rate comparison. I'd except the numbers from a valid source.

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Old 02-02-2008, 08:42 PM
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LMAO! Some one had to bring it up!

Meanwhile as for the "numbers". Don't have'em, don't know where to get'em, but I'm sure somebody out there, on either side, who has even less of a life than I and could do a 4.08/Real Stats climb rate comparison. I'd except the numbers from a valid source.
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30 seconds with my favorite search engine got me this:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...stangtest.html

It's a series of reports on...almost every model P-51 you might care to name.



Are these rates of climb not in line with what you see in game? How many feet per minute did you assume the plane could achieve, and at what altitude?

Finding this info is actually fairly simple, and can help address any "gut feelings" of incorrect FM performance by putting them into an historical context, thus translating them from "gut feelings" into "useful data"

Print out the tests, keep 'em handy, and fly a few Mustangs. Then compare RoC sim vs. real tests from the war. Should kill a few hours
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:51 PM
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Keep in mind, the P-51 could have been going faster than you at the time. I often wonder if people think that just because they're in, say, an Me-262 going 500 kph, that they should be faster than a P-51 going 500 kph. It's still 500 kph, no matter how you match it, both planes are going the same speed. Based on this information, if the P-51 is in an advanced energy state and you're in a late Bf-109, udging by some other posts I've seen, some people believe that just because the 109 is a 109, it should outclimb (even with inferior energy) the P-51 no matter the situation.

This is in no way a remark on you Whinner. Chances are that the P-51's you were trying to catch were in a higher energy state than you, and therefore out zoom you every time. It's the smart way to drive a 51 and often yields good results.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:36 PM
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Do some climb tests and compare to the numbers found on Spitfire testing, I think you will find them very close
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:02 AM
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Just another Warclouds Luftwaffle looking to nerf an Allied bird to protect his precious stats...


Nothing new here, move along....




If anything the reports Former _Older posted shows that our P51D in game is slower than real life by a fair amount.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:14 PM
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Just another Warclouds Luftwaffle looking to nerf an Allied bird to protect his precious stats...
First the WarClouds remark is completely out of place here.
Second I don't remember you trashing the guys that wanted P51 to turn like a Spitfire like that. Maybe another example of UBI objectivity Xiolablu style?


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If anything the reports Former _Older posted shows that our P51D in game is slower than real life by a fair amount.
O rly? Which reports would that be? Maybe you are looking at P51H lol but most certainly not our P51D 67Hg
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