Contact sight problem.. really something to patch!!

[6S.Tamat]

Have you ever been on a plane? You are able to see a car moving not hundred but thousand of meters below you, because it is moving. The human brain is the one that is able to see if something is an object, and the brain is made to control something moving; that is the reason that let you understand that something is moving also in your peripheal vision, that usually is something less more than an unfocused blurring colours mix.
Said that if you red as i think books and memoires of pilots you surely red also alot of time something like "i saw a group of planes x thousand meters below me and i did that or that..", i wonder how they did, if everything was camouflaged. And moreover reading the diaries of the people of London in the battle, you can easily understand that they were able to see the airplanes fighting over the city also when they where sure not at 500 meters, and the kids at the end of the battle were able to see who was enemy (the yellow nose) and who was not..
Two weeks later I was on a plane seeing around me, and if during the day i was able to see airplanes at very high distance, thinking that was because they were white and big and i was really high, when at the Gatwick airport i landed in the dusk and during the taxiing i was seeing a spot far far far away starting to land but still with hout the landing lights on; when eventually it landed (with the lights on that were not letting me able to see what kind of airplane was ) i was amused to see that was a light blue two propellor engine airplane ( of the dimension of a boston i suppose) used to link the channel islands.. and i was able to see it from really far away because it took minutes to land..
From the roof of my building i barely see hidden between the other building the Urbe airport in Rome, but i can see really clear and big the airplanes and see what kind of airplane is (high or low wing, one or two engines etc etc) the one landing or taking off and you know, are at 2 Km of distance, but at four, when they are on Villa Ada, the difference is not so big...

but if everything that is not rational i don't know what to say more

Then we have the cockpit blinking light, the painting that was glossy, the cloud effect of multiple contacts etc etc.. that we don't have on the simulator

[AMVI_Superblu]

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

Have you ever been on a plane? You are able to see a car moving not hundred but thousand of meters below you, because it is moving.

I know.
I am not a real life pilot but i am parachutist so i know what you mean but you forgot one thing: Cars on a road are not provided with a camo.

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

Said that if you red as i think books and memoires of pilots you surely red also alot of time something like "i saw a group of planes x thousand meters below me and i did that or that..", i wonder how they did, if everything was camouflaged.

Camos are not always perfect, they are (sometimes) useless at present day, they were surely worst in WWII. It always depends from thousands of factors like ambient light, clouds, angle of view etc. but yes, in some situations you can be able to see something that, let's say, the guy 50 meters western than you may not see.

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

And moreover reading the diaries of the people of London in the battle, you can easily understand that they were able to see the airplanes fighting over the city also when they where sure not at 500 meters, and the kids at the end of the battle were able to see who was enemy (the yellow nose) and who was not..

Looking something skyward from the ground is not that difficult due to high contrast with the skylight

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

From the roof of my building i barely see hidden between the other building the Urbe airport in Rome, but i can see really clear and big the airplanes and see what kind of airplane is (high or low wing, one or two engines etc etc) the one landing or taking off and you know, are at 2 Km of distance, but at four, when they are on Villa Ada, the difference is not so big...

I can agree with you on this.
My house is at about 2.5km straight line from LIRE (Pratica di Mare Mil) and i am having the same feel as you stated in the quote above.

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

but if everything that is not rational i don't know what to say more

Then we have the cockpit blinking light, the painting that was glossy, the cloud effect of multiple contacts etc etc.. that we don't have on the simulator

I am not complayning what you say (write) being irrational, if i let intend this i am sorry.
I am just trying to keep a discussion where ideas from different people are facing each other.
Nothing more, nothing less.

As stated above at previous quotes, i don't agree with you on some points, but i do on others.
The truth is in the middle (probably).

Who knows, maybe this thread will be such an inspiring place for devs to make a working solution for our ghost-contacts over the channel.

[6S.Tamat]

Originally Posted by AMVI_Superblu

The truth is in the middle (probably).

Who knows, maybe this thread will be such an inspiring place for devs to make a working solution for our ghost-contacts over the channel.

I totally agree with that conclusion.. for the other we can discuss