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Old 10-19-2011, 09:05 AM
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if i was rude or offensive, i apologize as this wasn´t my intention.
no man, it wasn't you I was referring to

as per your point on the skull remains, the question is that they show a bullet hole wound, which is inconsistent with the death of Eva Braun.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:16 AM
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According to what i´ve read, the relationship between hitler and braun was troubled at best. 1 possibility is, that her will to live was greater than her "love" for the führer and so ended up shot.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:44 AM
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According to what i´ve read, the relationship between hitler and braun was troubled at best. 1 possibility is, that her will to live was greater than her "love" for the führer and so ended up shot.
According to witnesses of the time, they heard only one gunshot, while Braun had bitten a cyanide capsule.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:48 AM
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an interesting read, with many controversial points

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...lf_hitler1.htm
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:19 PM
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@David: There were even Fanatics still present in the late 50s, saying that Hitler was a great man, just fyi.
I never claimed that all the fanatics were gone. However, the fanatics at his side at the end were mostly stabbing him in the back, not lying for him.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:22 PM
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I still do not understand the hysterical/rude/offensive attitude of some of you guys, is it possible to have a civilised conversation in here anymore?
I'm not being hysterical, rude, of offensive.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:37 PM
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I never claimed that all the fanatics were gone. However, the fanatics at his side at the end were mostly stabbing him in the back, not lying for him.
this is speculation.

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I'm not being hysterical, rude, of offensive.
Seriously? Since when calling other people's opinions "idiotic" is not considered rude or offensive? It seems to me that the only way of communication you know is denigration of the people that have opinions that differ from yours.
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Old 10-19-2011, 01:50 PM
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this is speculation.
It's a known fact that Himmler and Goering were stabbing him in the back. And it's absolutely hysterical that someone pushing a scheme about Hitler escaping Berlin is accusing anyone of "speculation".

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Seriously? Since when calling other people's opinions "idiotic" is not considered rude or offensive? It seems to me that the only way of communication you know is denigration of the people that have opinions that differ from yours.
The evidence that the "Hitler died in Argentina" claim is idiotic is overwhelming.
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Old 10-19-2011, 02:35 PM
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It's a known fact that Himmler and Goering were stabbing him in the back. And it's absolutely hysterical that someone pushing a scheme about Hitler escaping Berlin is accusing anyone of "speculation".
it wasn't just Himmler and Goering around him at the time. I don't think Hitler trusted them at all anyway, and not just in the end of the war. If he really had an escape plan in mind he would have needed accomplices and some staging to be arranged, so a fake suicide is a possibility, there's no better witnesses than the ones that believe in what they say.

I'm not saying he did anyway, I haven't read the book myself and can't tell if what the authors wrote is plausible or a lot of baloney. The only thing I'm sure of is that there never was satisfying evidence that the remains provided by the Russians were indeed the ones of Adolf Hitler or Eva Braun.
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The evidence that the "Hitler died in Argentina" claim is idiotic is overwhelming.
It's your opinion, others might disagree and think you're the idiot because you believe that all the Governments tell you is the truth. Before calling other people's opinions' idiotic I'd do a reality check myself..

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Old 10-19-2011, 02:42 PM
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It's your opinion, others might disagree and think you're the idiot because you believe that all the Governments tell you is the truth. Before calling other people's opinions' idiotic I'd do a reality check myself..
My views on Hitler escaping Berlin have nothing to do with what the government says. It has everything to do with the moronic notion that something like that would be kept secret by a group of people who have every incentive to stab him in the back, which some of his most important supporters are already doing at that time. That's the reality check, and it doesn't support nutty conspiracy theories.
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