Hitler Died In Argentina.

[Sternjaeger II]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/fbi-belie.../148894-2.html

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16090144

well, the Allies knew about the research on nuclear weapons done by the Germans, and I would think it's not like they left the potential escape to the very last minute.. accessing that info in 1943 or 1944 would have been of vital importance for the race to nuclear weapons.

I'm not saying I believe it all of course, but I wouldn't even rule it out completely. The fact still remains that there is nothing that proves that what they found were the rests of Hitler and Eva Braun. The modern forensic evidence gathered by FBI experts seems to tell that the skull bits found do not belong to a man in his late 50s. I am pretty confident that finding a body with a bullet wound to the head wouldn't have been a hard task to accomplish in Berlin in 1945.

As for the witnesses that reported the facts: if they were devoted enough to spend their last days in a bunker with Hitler, I really don't see why the few of them could have as well decided to do their ultimate act of faith and lie about Hitler's fate.

In any case, I do not understand on which basis you lot think this couldn't be even remotely possible.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

The modern forensic evidence gathered by FBI experts seems to tell that the skull bits found do not belong to a man in his late 50s.

Do you have a link to this report? And to the report which says the teeth the Russians have is not Hitler's?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Do you have a link to this report? And to the report which says the teeth the Russians have is not Hitler's?

from good ol' wiki:
"According to the Russian Federal Security Service, a fragment of human skull stored in its archives and displayed to the public in a 2000 exhibition came from Hitler's remains. However, the authenticity of the skull fragment was challenged by historians and researchers,[277] and DNA analysis conducted in 2009 showed the skull fragment to be that of a woman. Analysis of the sutures between the skull plates indicated that it belonged to a 20–40-year-old individual.[278]"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...llet-hole.html

but anyway, if dental records of the high command were destroyed, as per Bormann's 1944 order, how could they say they recognised the rests from their teeth? Bormann's dental record themselves were reconstructed "from memory" by his former dentist to identify his remains.. really guys?

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

but anyway, if dental records of the high command were destroyed, as per Bormann's 1944 order, how could they say they recognised the rests from their teeth? Bormann's dental record themselves were reconstructed "from memory" by his former dentist to identify his remains.. really guys?

Most likely the records were not actually destroyed, that's how.

In any case, the idea that all the witnesses would have carried the lie of Hitler's death to their graves is completely absurd.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Most likely the records were not actually destroyed, that's how.

erm, and what are you basing your assumption on?

In any case, the idea that all the witnesses would have carried the lie of Hitler's death to their graves is completely absurd.

I still don't see why it's absurd, so many people died bringing their secrets (or others') to their grave: think about all the people that work for the secret services or that were involved in illegal actions.. I really do not comprehend why it's not plausible.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

erm, and what are you basing your assumption on?

Because I've seen the records on 1 of the dozen or so "this is how Hitler died" history shows.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I still don't see why it's absurd, so many people died bringing their secrets (or others') to their grave: think about all the people that work for the secret services or that were involved in illegal actions.. I really do not comprehend why it's not plausible.

It's not plausible because this would have been the biggest secret in modern history. It might be possible for 1 or 2 people to keep that secret, but it's not possible for everyone who would have known. The idea that Hitler could get 20+ minions to lie for him even as his closest supporters (Himmler and Goering) are stabbing him in the back is too absurd to even consider. It's one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Because I've seen the records on 1 of the dozen or so "this is how Hitler died" history shows.

you might have seen reports or results, it's a known fact the records were destroyed.

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It's not plausible because this would have been the biggest secret in modern history. It might be possible for 1 or 2 people to keep that secret, but it's not possible for everyone who would have known. The idea that Hitler could get 20+ minions to lie for him even as his closest supporters (Himmler and Goering) are stabbing him in the back is too absurd to even consider. It's one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard.[/QUOTE]

Really? You probably also believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy all by himself

you're just looking for another trolling occasion, I personally never cared too much for your opinions, but if you have facts that state without the shadow of a doubt that the remains the Russians allegedly found in a crater close to the bunker were indeed those of Hitler and Eva Braun, then feel free to expose them here, otherwise feel free not to share your opinions, especially if they're denigratory of other people's thoughts and generally offensive.

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

erm, and what are you basing your assumption on?



I still don't see why it's absurd, so many people died bringing their secrets (or others') to their grave: think about all the people that work for the secret services or that were involved in illegal actions.. I really do not comprehend why it's not plausible.

Oh the conspiracy theorists! I love them, they are like those small, angry dogs that bark all the time in high pitch

At least Otto Günsche remained a convinced Nazi until his death. Don't you think he would have loved to spice the whole story a bit up, in order to mystify his Führer? Count Mohnke in, and possibly Heinz Linge.
The absurd thing is: It's not absurd in Absurdistan!

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Redroach

Oh the conspiracy theorists! I love them, they are like those small, angry dogs that bark all the time in high pitch

At least Otto Günsche remained a convinced Nazi until his death. Don't you think he would have loved to spice the whole story a bit up, in order to mystify his Führer? Count Mohnke in, and possibly Heinz Linge.
The absurd thing is: It's not absurd in Absurdistan!

I'm sorry, but the fact that the remains the Russians have are of Hitler are as much as a theory as the one that states he fled to Argentina. There is no forensic evidence that the remains they have are of Adolf Hitler.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

In any case, I do not understand on which basis you lot think this couldn't be even remotely possible.

Because there were multiple witnesses and the odds that all of them would maintain this lie for the rest of their lives is pretty close to ZERO.