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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Do we need new trees?
Yes, current ones are glittering and have no collision model. 71 47.65%
No, but the collison model added. 60 40.27%
No, they are fine. 8 5.37%
Don't mind the trees. 10 6.71%
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Old 10-15-2011, 12:09 AM
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Less complex trees and a lot more of them. They look terrible from a distance.

They don't 'glitter'.
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Old 10-15-2011, 03:49 PM
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Turn the trees off if you don't like them.
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:32 PM
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Turn the trees off if you don't like them.
yeah thats a solution...cinics
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Turn the trees off if you don't like them.
you might as well, they don't do anything except hog resources and hide 109s
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:01 PM
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We need old trees,new trees grow very slowly..........
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Do vehicles drive straight through trees?
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:14 PM
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Allmost all there is saying the game performance is bad, yes it is, but if we get collision on the trees i'm sure it not boost performance.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:24 PM
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Allmost all there is saying the game performance is bad, yes it is, but if we get collision on the trees i'm sure it not boost performance.
well, if the logic was that, we should cut the CEM if it booste dperformance no?

the order should be

-realism - colideble trees
-performance - well, no sttutery trees
-looks - trees that look nice.
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:51 AM
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Do vehicles drive straight through trees?
yes, 109's



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seriously,

its basic

a) good modeled / skinned / graphic trees

b) tree collision model for any flight SIM after 1995

The devs will be working on it but I think they fix alot of other more priority things to work on.

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Old 10-16-2011, 09:06 AM
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I'm all for having collision models, though depending on the performance impact I might still vote for the way it is now. (Forests, however, could definitely use a big all-encompassing collision mesh, which shouldn't take nearly the CPU usage that checking each individual tree would. And as far as I know it would bring tree collision in line with 1946)

On the visual side, the current trees don't look all that bad to me, the only big problem is the shimmering that occurs on trees within a certain distance. Based on my observations, the shimmering only happens during the transition from the 3d tree to the 2d billboard tree.

I'd have to guess there's either badly-implemented stippling shader or there's z-fighting going on. If it's the former then one way to fix it would be to change the shader to have a consistent stippling pattern. If it is the former, then there is only one way to fix it (which would also work in the first case): get rid of the fade transition. While it's meant to be smooth, it obviously isn't working as intended. Popping between 2d and 3d trees may not be the best, but it would probably be better than what we have now, and it's not like we don't have other map objects popping in.
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