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Old 10-05-2011, 07:59 PM
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i think im gonna get a yamaha special 250

but whats the cheapest car you can get with no hood?
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:22 PM
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ElAurens was unaware that he was secretly being recorded. Now that the truth is revealed, perhaps he will tell us how he really feels


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Old 10-05-2011, 10:05 PM
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Sorry guys, I stand by my post.

I've done lots of track days in the past. In my job I drive lots of different newer and older exotics and sports cars.

The 911 has morphed into a GT car, especially the portly water cooled versions. There is no getting around that.

For my taste the only new Porsches that come close to the essence of what a sports car is are the Cayman S and the Boxter Spyder.

Personally if I was going to own a 911 the only one I would consider is the RS America.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the newer 911s are bad cars, they are not, but I find them lacking in soul. I can say the same thing about the newer Aston Martins as well. Wonderful cars, but dull.

On the flip side I had the '63 E-Type from the collection out on the road today and it made me feel like I was driving. Really driving. I could feel the rear end thinking about stepping out just a little as that wonderful 3.8 litre six oozed torque through the contact patches coming out of a tight right hander. Tiny correction in the steering and squeeze the go pedal a bit more, clip the apex, squirt out and select fourth...

Ah... Glorious...




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Old 10-05-2011, 10:21 PM
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I doubt you could list 5 power-train and suspension differences between the RS America and a "'96 911", or how many of those components are interchangeable between the 2. Wonder if you're conflating "'96 911" with "996"?
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:50 PM
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I doubt you could list 5 power-train and suspension differences between the RS America and a "'96 911", or how many of those components are interchangeable between the 2. Wonder if you're conflating "'96 911" with "996"?
Negative, it's a 993.

The RS is a lot lighter. No AC or electric doo dads. And no computer nanny messing with the brakes or throttle either.

Like I said, the 993 is not a bad car, but soul stirring it is not.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:28 AM
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I don't seem to have a computer nanny on my 993 messing with my brakes or throttle. I have a cable connecting accelerator pedal to the throttle body on the engine, same as RS America (964). I have hydraulic brake master cylinder with ABS, same as 964 RS America. Electric power windows, same as .... [guess].

Tell us the differences between the two models in the M64 engine. For bonus points, list 2 or 3 features from the 993 engine that many 964 owners install.

But, the 993 is newer, and therefore more "high tech", and therefore "watered down".
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:44 AM
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I didn't make this post this to argue with you.

I found the car boring, porky, and not to my liking.

Certainly not as fun as the early cars.

It's easily 500 pounds overweight, and has a lot of stuff that sports cars don't need. But then it's a GT car now, so what do I know.

To each his own.
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Old 10-08-2011, 05:59 PM
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On the flip side I had the '63 E-Type from the collection out on the road today and it made me feel like I was driving. Really driving. I could feel the rear end thinking about stepping out just a little as that wonderful 3.8 litre six oozed torque through the contact patches coming out of a tight right hander. Tiny correction in the steering and squeeze the go pedal a bit more, clip the apex, squirt out and select fourth...

Ah... Glorious...
It had an aftermarket tranny then, I guess.
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Old 10-08-2011, 11:36 PM
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User friendly ..... Nah

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Old 10-09-2011, 01:31 AM
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http://www.insideline.com/features/t...-all-time.html

And the answer is:

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Originally Posted by The 100 Greatest Cars of All Time
911: The everyday sports car. A motorsports legend. A timeless silhouette. Still the benchmark. The greatest Porsche of all time.
Panamera's on the list too. No Triumphs, tho.
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