Will COD be stereographic 3D? Worth 3D monitor?

[Madfish]

Mh,

I recommend to do extensive self tests by watching 3d-movies. Try active and passive techniques, meaning shutter and color filtered glasses (anachromatic). The reason is simply that many people can't enjoy it over a longer timeframe - only maybe half an hour or so.

I must add something that many forget though: that is the basic image quality.
I wouldn't go for anything else then a PVA or IPS type panel. You will really notice the difference in image quality and colors.

By the way - many big studios announced they won't jump on the 3d train (not yet at least).
The 3d techniques currently used are actually very very old. In the days of half life 1 there was a trend for shutter based 3d as basically everyone had CRT screens that supported it due to their higher frequencies.
All current techniques will eventually die again - at least don't expect them to stay. They are way too geeky and failure prone. Many are not compatible and the technology is primitive.
There are new techniques on the horizon. For example autostereoskopic 3d and head up displays with "true" 3d.

But in the end it's up to you of course.

[r0bc]

Originally Posted by Madfish

But in the end it's up to you of course.

Your the only one that can say if its worth it.
I also have a Dell U2711 plus a 52 inch 3D TV in my bedroom.
I bought it more for the refresh rate then the 3D, the only game I've been playing in 3D is Deux Ex HR and it really looks stunning.
If the price is a big deal to you its hard to recommend a $600+ 1080p monitor but if you really want 3D and price don't bother you...it's up to you.

[warbirds]

Will be interesting for those that spend big bucks on 3d gear when the fad dies out like it did so many times in the past.

[snwkill]

Originally Posted by warbirds

Will be interesting for those that spend big bucks on 3d gear when the fad dies out like it did so many times in the past.

I don't think it will die out this time, the only thing is it might be improved upon, especially when glasses free 3d solutions start to become more mainstream... I have a 3d projector and it is one of the best upgrades I have done next to my SSD. Being able to watch 3d movies like you are in the theater is mind blowing.

Like others have said it has a bit to go for the gaming community, I get headaches in 2d with IL2, I couldn't imagine in 3d.

[robtek]

I wouldn't choose a proprietary technology!
I still have some old nvidia shutter glasses lying around that aren't usable anymore because there is no connector on the graphic card for them.
But they were really great with B17, the mighty eight.
If possible use a monitor for polarized glasses, i'd say.

[r0bc]

Originally Posted by warbirds

Will be interesting for those that spend big bucks on 3d gear when the fad dies out like it did so many times in the past.

Why interesting? Explain.
Some of the best TV's on the market are 3D regardless if you use the 3D part or not and you'd be hard pressed to find a high end TV without it....and the 120hz tn panels is still better then 60hz tn panels even without 3D.
Everything fades out. If you consider a few hundred dollars big bucks, don't buy it I guess.

[Madfish]

Why would a 120hz TN?! panel be better than a 60hz one?

Also my point was that TN panels aren't good at all. If you're looking for a good monitor it's way better to invest in an IPS or PVA panel type one than into a 120hz TN panel one.

TV's are also very bad computer screens. Response time is way too high and other things like ghosting etc are also common.
Aside from that not everyone is a TV addict. I can't even remember the last time I watched TV and to be honest I'm glad about it. Interestingly I'm not alone as many of my peers don't watch TV at all. So it's a bit weird to assume everyone will get 3d capable equipment to play computer games on anyways.

Aside from that I also have these ages old nvidia shutter glasses. It was disappointing to say the least.

Autostereoscopy or real HUD 3d yes - everything else is just a marketing gag for the industry to sell new devices. And interestingly it's always the same culprits...

[r0bc]

Originally Posted by Madfish

Why would a 120hz TN?! panel be better than a 60hz one?

Also my point was that TN panels aren't good at all. If you're looking for a good monitor it's way better to invest in an IPS or PVA panel type one than into a 120hz TN panel one.

TV's are also very bad computer screens. Response time is way too high and other things like ghosting etc are also common.
Aside from that not everyone is a TV addict. I can't even remember the last time I watched TV and to be honest I'm glad about it. Interestingly I'm not alone as many of my peers don't watch TV at all. So it's a bit weird to assume everyone will get 3d capable equipment to play computer games on anyways.

Aside from that I also have these ages old nvidia shutter glasses. It was disappointing to say the least.

Autostereoscopy or real HUD 3d yes - everything else is just a marketing gag for the industry to sell new devices. And interestingly it's always the same culprits...

I'm not going to argue TN vs IPS......I have 2 IPS panels in house and sit in front of them at work. The quality can't be beat but I game on a TN panel and I prefer how smooth things seem with 120hz.

I don't assume everyone will get 3d capable equipment but a lot of TV's now have 3D as a feature, like internet and apps....its just there and some people still watch TV. In fact 3D is being adopted faster the HD was, I guess because its just that a feature.....and yes the glasses are dumb no one likes them....but thats what we currently have.

TV's really aren't bad computer screens,I wouldn't use it in my office but I have a HTPC connected to my TV( 7+TB Blu Ray ISO's and counting) save all F1 races to disk and even play some games but only ones I can lay back and play with a xbox controller...it works damn good.

I want 4K

[ATAG_Bliss]

I wonder if this means we are finally going to get a nvidia profile in the near future?

Proper SLI / FSAA etc?

[Les]

Originally Posted by r0bc

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I want 4K

lol, I was just going to say something about 4K and in the last sentence of the thread someone mentions it.

4K for the masses is going to start arriving next year, and will be called SuperHD or some such thing. The technology has been ready to go for at least a couple of years but has been held back while the media giants suck as much money out of 1080p as they can.

For those who don't know, current HD is roughly 2K (1920x1080 for example), while 4K is somewhere around double that (3840 x 2160 for example).

I haven't heard about any 4K computer monitors that are being worked on, but I haven't been looking either. I have heard though of an affordable, 3D capable, 4K projector that's being developed by the 'RED' company. This projector will require the use of 'passive' 3D glasses (like used in cinema's), not the 'active' shutter-type glasses that the mainstream media giants are still pushing.

Anyway, the point is, 4K (or SuperHD or whatever they'll call it) is definitely coming and any monitor or projector you can afford now will soon be superceded. Not that it matters if you need to buy a monitor now.

For me personally, I'd put overall image quality above novelty features like 3D. That means I wouldn't buy any of the monitors the OP mentions, and would try to find an affordable IPS panel, like one of the DELL Supersharp's or the Hazro's mentioned in this thread http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25658

I replaced a TN monitor with an IPS panel a couple of years ago when I found a 27" model on sale, and when put side by side, the difference in the accuracy of the colours was jaw-dropping.

Having said that though, the IPS panels are usually a lot more expensive than the TN panels and that price difference can be hard to justify if all you want to do is use the monitor for gaming or general computer use. So, in that case I would in fact go with one of the 120Hz TN panels. Keeping in mind that the latest ones that use LED backing lights and have fast response times can sometimes be just as expensive as the cheaper IPS panels that have better colour reproduction.

As always, it comes down to researching what's available, then deciding what features you prefer, and what you can afford. Everyone's preferences and circumstances are different at any given time, so there's no easy answer for this kind of thing.

A final note about the 3D thing as it applies to Cliffs Of Dover. If all they're talking about in the recent update thread is nVidia 3D (though I don't think they are), I hope they've sorted out the issues highlighted by the last set of pictures posted in this thread - http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=25422&page=4