Beta becoming Full patch soon?

[Pluto]

... to stop this weird discussion, Ace-of-Aces, why dont you check out this here:http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html
and then compare it to the performance of aircrafts in Cliffs of Dover, maybe then you believe the people who say that the flight-model in this sim is not correct.

It is not correct, that`s a fact !

To everybody who is so enthusiastic about the new BETA-patch that they are already satisfied I want to say it`s still far from perfect compared to what was said years ago on what would be possible in this sim.
Maybe you havent read what was previously announced?


Maybe I´m the only one to say it, so what, ... but I cannot say that I am so pleased and impressed with the new beta that I would play the sim as it is now for years, even without further development.
Dont make the developers think everything is already fine the way it is with your comments.

It is much better than before but still far from good or perfect!

I wait for further updates and patches!

[Pluto]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Even on that biased site, the 109s performance is clearly undermodelled. Of course, the Ia is too.

... yes that`s correct but I couldnt find anything more precise in the internet
for the moment, dont have time to look for hours to find the best documentation on that subject. Maybe someone else can find something to put an end to that discussion if the FM in Cliffs of Dover is correct or not?

Let`s wait and play something else until this sim is closer to what was announced years ago.
By the way, a new ego-shooter is announced, "FarCry3"
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/06/farcry-3-preview/

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Pluto

Ace-of-Aces, why don't you check out this here:http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html
and then compare it to the performance of aircrafts in Cliffs of Dover

Why don't I do it?

Easy.. Because I am NOT the one saying it is too this or too that

But you do bring up a good point!

Why aren't the people who are saying it providing the proof?

If I had to guess, most wouldn't know the first thing about how to preform the test let alone provide the results of the test

Originally Posted by Pluto

maybe then you believe the people who say that the flight-model in this sim is not correct.

Your missing the point

I am not say it is too this or too that

I am simply pointing out the fact that no one has provided anything that would be considered proof one way or another with regards to being too this or too that

Based on my past experience I know enough about testing to know that upon closer inspection it would be found that most of the errors folks are so called 'reporting' are due to pilot an test method errors not FM errors.

Which again is why I am 'asking' people to provide the 'info' that their claims are based on.. Put another way, talk is cheap! Put even another way, put up or shut up.

Originally Posted by Pluto

It is not correct, that`s a fact !

Clearly you do not understand what 'fact' means