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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II
that's the whole point though, violence is perpetrated by individuals by different means: violent people will still be violent, with or without a firearm.
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Why are you linking Guns to Violence? What has violence got to do with gun ownership. Violence is is the use of physical force to apply a state to others contrary to their wishes.
You don't have to get violent with a gun to make people do what you tell them to do, you just point it.
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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II
Ok, let me explain: the current limitations imposed with the firearms regulations have no relevance in terms of safety against gun crime (as the Cumbria massacre demonstrated), simply because the range of firearms available is still very lethal and effective. Nowadays you can own one of these and be perfectly legal
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Oohh, nice gun
I don't think that the current regulations have anything to do with gun crime, it's a public saftey issue. As you know there are loads of illegal guns in the UK and plenty of armed robberies and shootings. More guns is just that, more guns. If there are more there is more risk.
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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II
So it's not a matter of what firearms you have available to the public, but on which basis people are authorised to own firearms.
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So is that your point? The criteria for ownership? What's wrong with the current rules?
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It may not be safer in countries without firearms but there's definitley less chance of getting shot..
Sorry, but the UK is nothing like Switzerland - The UK is much more like the USA especially the under 30's.
09-12-2011, 09:31 PM
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