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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-06-2011, 10:13 PM
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On a sunny clear day. Not fog, not smog, not industrial polution - on a clear sunny day (taken by me this past weekend in pristine de-industrialized california )

In second pic, in the upper right hand, you can see the fog bank over the Pacific ocean about 15 km away:
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:39 PM
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lovely images, must be great living there man! perfect example of distance and haze, look at the trees and when close, much less haze.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:56 PM
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Viscosity only applies to liquids.

As this is a flight sim, not a sub sim viscosity does not apply at any altitude.
Gases

Viscosity in gases arises principally from the molecular diffusion that transports momentum between layers of flow. The kinetic theory of gases allows accurate prediction of the behavior of gaseous viscosity.

Within the regime where the theory is applicable:
Viscosity is independent of pressure and
Viscosity increases as temperature increases.[12]

James Clerk Maxwell published a famous paper in 1866 using the kinetic theory of gases to study gaseous viscosity.[13] To understand why the viscosity is independent of pressure, consider two adjacent boundary layers (A and B) moving with respect to each other. The internal friction (the viscosity) of the gas is determined by the probability a particle of layer A enters layer B with a corresponding transfer of momentum. Maxwell's calculations showed him that the viscosity coefficient is proportional to both the density, the mean free path and the mean velocity of the atoms. On the other hand, the mean free path is inversely proportional to the density. So an increase of pressure doesn't result in any change of the viscosity.

Of course this contradicts my explanation but it does prove that gas has viscosity, as far as saying air is less hazy at altitude....thats just fact and I am speaking from 2800 hours of flying experience, the only time I have seen haze at altitude is when passing through a temparature inversion.
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:16 PM
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I can quote from something also. Viscosity bla bla bla...

How about you both have a a hot cup of Shut the F*#K UP and just go fly the planes and enjoy the great work the team have done so far.
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:20 PM
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I can quote from something also. Viscosity bla bla bla...

How about you both have a a hot cup of Shut the F*#K UP and just go fly the planes and enjoy the great work the team have done so far.
LOL. You have my vote for forum moderator.
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:55 PM
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I can quote from something also. Viscosity bla bla bla...

How about you both have a a hot cup of Shut the F*#K UP and just go fly the planes and enjoy the great work the team have done so far.
If you were doing exactly what you were suggesting you wouldnt have needed to be such a hypocritical xxx.
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:37 AM
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I like the toned down cockpit colours but the landscape is quite hazy. While I understand the haze at altitude, should it not become clearer as you fly closer to the ground? Especially on a bright sunnery day?
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I think the sim is on the verge of greatness and I enjoy it very much and don't wish to fall into the negative crowd but find I have to comment on my initial observations as I see them.

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I agree, the haziness is overdone. It is a bit too dusty not only when you look down at the ground from in the air, but also when you look up at the sky.

Despite that the new graphics are still an improvement.

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Old 09-07-2011, 01:44 AM
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Default Low level bombers visual

Great improvement on spotting low level inbound bombers over water in the quick missions. Before they seemed to be lost in the waves and now I could see them clearly and judge their approach angle clearly.

Vast improvement.

Well done guys.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:13 AM
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Is it me or are the wing trails new?
I do belive they are .
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:27 AM
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Is it me or are the wing trails new?
I noticed them now too.. hehe Pretty sure they are new
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