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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-06-2011, 03:40 PM
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The question for me is: At what point of ground wind speed does it require a pilot of a Spitfire to ensure that brakes are applied at spawning?
In the real world? I believe much more stronger winds than in CloD. And I explain why I believe that's happens: CloD spawn "unparked" aircrafts as if they are in air, not grounded.

The problem I saw so far now is that, not how wind act with aircrafts. If you start with brakes on and just after remove brakes, your Spitfire will not spin like crazy. The wind influence will be much like in "real world", even taxiing.

Just that i'm trying to say for a log time ago... And isn't so hard to understand, I guess. But people need to test to understand, and maybe discover some other issues regards spawn/wind, not this broken record... "it's a bug"...

Do some testing and maybe you can find other things. I'll try more after lunch!

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Old 09-06-2011, 03:44 PM
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Dude they are reworking the ground physics and the likes because they are currently BUGGED next your gonna tell me flying ships are a common sight in real life.
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Old 09-06-2011, 03:49 PM
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Both sides are right.

The guys who say "planes shouldn't spawn with breaks on" please go play an arcade game. Are you leaving your car without handbrake or gear in standing somewhere? Especially if the area is not flat (wind effect)? Come on...

But then again, a plane turning like that at 5m/s? I doubt it.

But I'll just repeat myself here: Let's just ask vintage plane pilots and listen to their experiences!

I believe the current wind effects while on the ground are too strong. But yes, planes should spawn with brakes applied and tail wheel locked.
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Old 09-06-2011, 03:53 PM
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does the tailwheel look work in CoD anyway ? i know there is a command.
Does any of the CoD flyables had one historicaly ?
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Old 09-06-2011, 03:55 PM
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Both sides are right.

The guys who say "planes shouldn't spawn with breaks on" please go play an arcade game. Are you leaving your car without handbrake or gear in standing somewhere? Especially if the area is not flat (wind effect)? Come on...

But then again, a plane turning like that at 5m/s? I doubt it.

But I'll just repeat myself here: Let's just ask vintage plane pilots and listen to their experiences!

I believe the current wind effects while on the ground are too strong. But yes, planes should spawn with brakes applied and tail wheel locked.

My God, Madfish... I wrote a lot of postings saying that IF YOU SPAWN WITH BRAKES ON THE INFLUENCE OF THE WIND OVER PARKED AIRCRAFT ISN'T TOO STRONG!

Your Spitfire will not turn like wihout inertia if you remove brakes after spawn. Is that what's I'm talking about. Your plane will not start to goes backwards in 70-80km/h winds if you remove brakes AFTER spawn.

The problem is in spawn logic. I'll post AGAIN the video with takeoff and landing in REALLY strong winds, more than 100km/h...



Let's move on into the subject, please... The tailwheel is one cool... It's really necessary all this wind to spin an aircraft with tailwheel loose? I don't know...

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Old 09-06-2011, 03:57 PM
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But the problem is that if you release the brakes the aircraft can begin to slide again.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:01 PM
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But the problem is that if you release the brakes the aircraft can begin to slide again.
Test it yourself. Don't happens this way

Here is the bug, not in wind acting in general. Your aircraft only will goes backwards in REALLY strong wind, as in real world. In this last video, as you can see, after landing i removed brakes and reduce throttle to idle facing more than 100km/h wind, and my Spitfire remais in the same spot!
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:02 PM
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an additional idea would be to spawn alwasy with chocks - like in IL2 on carriers.
That would free your hands for starting operatons abs simulate the use of real chocks ans supporting groundcrew......
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:11 PM
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how do you put brake on directly?

i try to config the command brake crew...and don't seem to work
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:18 PM
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dude they are reworking the ground physics and the likes because they are currently bugged next your gonna tell me flying ships are a common sight in real life.
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