4.09 Dedicated Server Security & Distribution

[LEXX]

Petrosky::

It is a mess!

Sadly true. We get what we paid for, happy to stay dependent on Oleg's Offline play customers paying for our "free" cheat-free anonymous public server gameplay -- a very messy situation we made four ourselves over the last four years.

[ElAurens]

You know Lexx, every time you mention that onliners don't pay for their sim, which is every freaking time you post, I am left wondering WTF you are talking about.

You have been going on like this for years now, and frankly it makes no sense. None.

I, like every other online player has paid, and paid, and paid again for every version since the beginning.

So drop this schtick will ya?

You are clueless about online, as by your own admission you don't fly online, and you have not played the sim at all since 4.04.

Your observations are odd to say the least.

[LEXX]

I observe honest Online players, for example the Online player at simhq that poasted about 2 years ago...

If not for the Offline base, we'd all be paying 12$ a month to fly.

[Brain32]

Well if the game was pay to play, it would be online only and there would be no offline AT ALL so it is US(onliners) who payed what you get for free.

Do you see how easily can it work in reverse?

[LEXX]

It could work in reverse if this sim were Pay-To-Play, but the sales and revenue have been primarily provided by the Offline play customers.

Now, if the sim were Pay-To-Play, then we would be paying a Monthly Fee to the publisher, and we would not be dependent on Offline play customers.

[ElAurens]

Just who is the "we" you speak of?

If it was pay to play and online only, you wouldn't even be here Lexx.

And come to think of it neither would I. I don't have $120+ a year to chase pixels across a monitor screen. For that kind of money the software would have to be a free download, and there would have to be additional free aircraft and other content on a very regular basis, the netcode would have to be a lot better than it is now, and there would have to be a massive developer run server capable of putting thousands of aircraft up at once on a map the size of oh, the world.

Can't see that happening in a niche market like WW2 flight simulation.

[LEXX]

hmmm....I would be interested in an immersive dynamic Online War hosted through the publisher, but...

ElAurens::

...the netcode would have to be a lot better than it is now, and there would have to be a massive developer run server capable of putting thousands of aircraft up at once on a map the size of oh, the world..

...which describes exactly what Oleg would do -- perhaps for BoB And Beyond. Although a Channel map would be sufficient for the first releace, and for later theaters, later maps, all sized less than, "oh, the world."

Can't see that happening in a niche market like WW2 flight simulation.

It already has, to some degree, and profitibly so, although not done by Oleg Maddox, which would be key to generate my interest in something like this.

The only issue I may have is that Oleg has said he thinks dynamic campaigns are arcade by being non-historical, while a true Online War is a dynamic campaign. UBI or 1C could pay me a Monthly Fee and I still would not join a static Online War with a never changing fixed outcome that cannot be affected to at least some degree by the playing sides.