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Old 09-02-2011, 09:52 PM
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urmmm winny??? I think its pretty clear that you can't see that guys hands. But I agree with what you wrote. This could be true about the spitfire and other lighter fighters

but I was originally talking about the P-38. I watched an episode of Showdown-Air combat about Richard Bong and the P-38 driver every time he was shown flying had both hands on the yoke.
I'm not really sure why the P-38 had a yoke, I personally get much better leverage with a stick. Most larger long distance type planes have a yoke because it's easier to read a map or copy an ATC clearance without a stick coming up between your legs (that sounds wierd). It's easier to fly one handed with a stick, and I suspect that many people who put 2 hands on a yoke wouldn't need to if they flew stick. And don't forget, that TV show you saw about the great Richard Bong was just that, a TV show. I also notice that you used the word "driver", and not "pilot". Drivers use 2 hands, pilots fly with one
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Old 09-02-2011, 10:30 PM
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I'm not really sure why the P-38 had a yoke, I personally get much better leverage with a stick. Most larger long distance type planes have a yoke because it's easier to read a map or copy an ATC clearance without a stick coming up between your legs (that sounds wierd). It's easier to fly one handed with a stick, and I suspect that many people who put 2 hands on a yoke wouldn't need to if they flew stick. And don't forget, that TV show you saw about the great Richard Bong was just that, a TV show. I also notice that you used the word "driver", and not "pilot". Drivers use 2 hands, pilots fly with one
Driver is what the host of that show Paul "Max" Moga says. I think he even says he 'drives' an F-22.
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Old 09-02-2011, 10:42 PM
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Driver is what the host of that show Paul "Max" Moga says. I think he even says he 'drives' an F-22.
Ha! Yeah, you're right, I think I did see that show. Gotta love Max. Air force fighter guys do say driver a lot for some reason, you can always tell when you share a cockpit with one
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:10 PM
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I should also point out that the main reason for keeping your hand on the throttle is not so much to make rapid throttle changes during combat, but to prevent it from "creeping back" under all the high G and vibration. In the real world combat flying is mostly done at full power. If you need to slow down it's usually better to pull a bit more G and trade speed for altitude or a tighter turn than to reduce throttle. This is one area wher BoP is less realistic than I would like, but it's still a great game

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Old 09-06-2011, 12:46 AM
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I'm not really sure why the P-38 had a yoke.....
IIRC all multi-engine ac had yokes and SE ac had sticks. i could be wrong but that is what i remember.

Mac...those are awesome shots. love the cockpit view. its got a lot of visibility and seems to be positioned well for a dogfight
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IIRC all multi-engine ac had yokes and SE ac had sticks. i could be wrong but that is what i remember.
The Bf110 had a stick and so did the Fighter & NF versions of the Mosquito.

Great new trailer! That I-16 blows up in a rather hilarious way.
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sorry, pope, i didnt clarify...i was strictly talking about US ac being fitted like this. and still could be wrong...lol
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sorry, pope, i didnt clarify...i was strictly talking about US ac being fitted like this. and still could be wrong...lol
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haha...yep guess so.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:48 PM
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Love the new trailer Bobby, thanks for sharing. If the gameplay is anywhere near as good as the visuals, then we'll surely have a winner

Wow, I just stayed on topic for an entire post! I never did that before.
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