New Graphics Technology?

[CharveL]

Originally Posted by Warhound

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8423008...its-not-a-scam

Followup post by Notch elaborating exactly why it's pure marketing talk by guys looking for nice fat cheques. Certainly nothing you'll see in games anytime soon.

Here's an example of something voxel based that actually does exite me.

That would excite me too if it could be done on something larger than a postage stamp. Still, even at an early stage there is a whole new field of gameplay possibilities using voxels or this unlimited detail type engines that don't require huge maps in the first few years until hardware opens it up more.

The money saved from studios tweaking polygon counts and such can be redirected to making storylines less hokey and vapid like they are in 98% of releases now.

[Madfish]

He's arrogant because he's playing down the arguments others have which are reasonable in some cases. This engine has definite limits and he isn't mentioning them at all - no, he's also lieing about them. Knowingly or unknowingly.

The most obvious argument however is that he says "infinite". Infinity is impossible, not even the universe itself is infinite. That's pure marketing talk and it IS either stupid or arrogant.


Notch isn't a known guy at all. He's just very well known with the kids since he is the guy who made Minecraft. An indie sandbox game that had a huge success in terms of sale and media attention. Like a virtual lego.
Ironically it has a lot of fundamental physics and logical issues too though. That's why I said he needs to clean his own backyard first.
Also the game was a crazy seller and then development stopped. It's literally much worse than Cliffs of Dover if you take a look at how much money was made.
Further, although the game is still alpha or beta (yes, it was sold as an alpha) they are working on a follow up game and the development for the original title is basically dead.

So overall I don't particulary like Notch. In many ways. But like there is truth to both sides there are also lies or false statements.



You said you'd like an engine like that but not as small as a postage stamp. Well, I imagine the first real uses we'll see will not simulate everything in perfect detail. Rather the technology will be use partially - for example for the areas you can use and also only partly with these.


But then again, the thought of an airplane crash landing in sand is pure awesomeness. ;-P

[CharveL]

No doubt!

I just think people get so hung up on the nuance of words and perception of attitude. The guy says infinite assuming everyone knows that nothing is technically infinite, and is just trying to make the point that there isn't any theoretical limitation to the size of the point cloud they sample from.

The guy is clearly pretty nerdy and not the best with words or presentation so I give the benefit of the doubt solely on the fact that he's not some slick marketing type that says all the right things in the right way. He just sounds absolutely convinced of his own tech and where it's going (whether it actually does or not).

[raaaid]

machines cant reach infinity, maybe spiritual things can

well unless a machine is spiritual

whats this?

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a road in perspective that goes to infinite and beyond