Would you be willing to pay for additional contend?

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

In terms of beating the old dead horse (the tangent discussion that spun off in the thread) i'm with Madfish.
People on this forum especially knew what was wrong with the game before they even got it: the Russian release was on March 25th and we had ample supply of videos and reviews made not by gaming websites, but made by customers.

Anyone who was displeased and didn't cancel their preorder has only themselves to blame for taking a leap of faith and then busting our proverbial fuzzy dice when it didn't work out for them.

I've never pre-ordered any kind of game before CoD and in the case of CoD i only did it to get a collector's edition. Pre-ordering is for people who are willing to put up with the initial teething troubles or see some kind of other benefit in it (like it was in my case), if you don't want to take a risk cancel your order and wait for more in-depth reviews and patches. But please, stop doing our head in about how you've been cheated when the information was right before your eyes.

A kid with no experience who saw a couple of advertisements and bought CoD, a newcomer to sims and this forum? Sure, he's got every right to feel cheated.

The bunch of old-timers and veterans who frequent this place? NOT A CHANCE. It was just voluntary blindness followed by self-righteous e-rage when things didn't go they way they imagined they would.


After the Russian release and a few weeks before the EU release:
"The videos on youtube are not encouraging, the game stutters like hell, oh well, i'm impatient so i'll buy a monster PC without knowing anything about what makes this game work this way and preorder anyway"

Two weeks later: "Oh well i'm impatient so i'll share the story of how i was cheated in the hopes of getting some comforting and maybe pushing the developers to give me a patch that fixes what i consider the most important bugs, because i'm super important and all"

There's a ton of things that need fixing in the game, but a lot of it is loads more important than the jaggies on a bloody aerial mast. But in order for people to know this they actually have to spend some time flying, instead of looking only at the pretty pictures and shutting off the game when they are not pretty enough for them. I honestly think some people are dabbling in the wrong gaming genre.

This is how some people come off here to the majority of the rest of the posters. You guys should see the kind of PMs and comments i get on reported posts from members of the community.

So let them stop throwing their HOTAS out the pram because the onlookers are not impressed, empathetic or otherwise moved one iota. It's a clear case of self-victimization, why should the rest of the community have to put up with the consequences of other people's masochism?






As for the main topic at hand, this:



WW1 in the western front is a more or less static frontline on the same map, which also doesn't need to be very big due to the speed and range limitations of those early aircraft.

WW2 is not the same, not by a long shot. I think RoF's business model is unsuitable for anything other than RoF.


So, would i buy additional content for CoD? Depends on how it's packaged.

If it was itemized DLC sales i wouldn't.
If it was a complete expansion pack (they way it was done with IL2) i would, because it gives me an entire new theater of operations to play with: ground units, AI, maps, etc.

In fact, the only IL2 titles i didn't get where the ones that were packaged digitally (Pe-2 and sturmoviks over manchuria), i didn't have those until i got the 1946 disc and they were included in it.

The reason that selling only flyables works for RoF is that the rest of it all is pretty much static in a WW1 scenario. Doesn't work for WW2 that way, just the western European front would need 2-3 different maps with different ships, ground vehicles, etc. If the developer is selling only flyables, he has no way to sell the "supporting cast", if they are selling a complete bundle however, they can include whatever needs to be included in the package and price it accordingly.

Another lovely long post Blackdog, and yes we have heard it all before, and it's good to see you towing the party line, but you see it really doesn't matter what you or I think, everyone who reads these forums as read every argument and point of view and it doesn't matter how rational you appear to be, because the bottom line is that the majority of people here feel they have been 'ripped off' and furthermore the general feeling is at this current time Luthier is not doing enough (communication wise) to show that he gives a rat's ass about it. Yes he's payed lip service to it with the 'Community manager' that seems to have gotton lost in the Dynamic weather so he knows its important to us, we should be patient I hear you cry, but thats not what we want, we want to be kept informed, and 'the customer is always right'.
You can dress it up all you want, but that's the general mood. The only person who can change this, is not a moderator with a stubborn sense of duty but Luthier himself. If he carries on to ignore 'his' valued customers then he and his business will suffer and deservedly so for the lack of respect that he has shown on these boards by not keeping us (the paying customer) informed. Simples!