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Old 08-26-2011, 05:35 PM
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Only if the problem requires one...?! Why should the target of violent crime not have the right to fight fire with fire? I come from the UK where owning a gun is not allowed, except for the authorities, rich gits, and criminal types! I live in the USA, where the common man has the right to protect himself and his property... That makes sense to me, even though I despise the fact that gun-ownership exists at all, in everyday life... Ask Norway, for crikey sake!!! Nut cases can get a gun or three too easily, but if you think you can reclaim the streets, you're welcome to ask nicely... Just be well-armed when you try...!
Ok, certain situations and circumstances require the use of firearms. I am well aware of that, I joined the Royal Navy so that fact is not lost on me.

What I was trying to say was that when these guys defaced a war memorial, the didn't and aren't threatening anyones life by doing what they did, so to suggest they should be shot for their crime is a bit overkill. Ok, what the did was bad, but if you really, really think it's ok to kill them for it, then you aren't much better yourself.

The plaque will be replaced, and eventually the d**kheads responsible will be held to account in one way or another.
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:25 PM
Ze-Jamz Ze-Jamz is offline
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Ok, certain situations and circumstances require the use of firearms. I am well aware of that, I joined the Royal Navy so that fact is not lost on me.

What I was trying to say was that when these guys defaced a war memorial, the didn't and aren't threatening anyones life by doing what they did, so to suggest they should be shot for their crime is a bit overkill. Ok, what the did was bad, but if you really, really think it's ok to kill them for it, then you aren't much better yourself.

The plaque will be replaced, and eventually the d**kheads responsible will be held to account in one way or another.
Ok to clear at least my end up...

No I wouldnt shoot them if i had them infront of me, its a term but i would expect them to be punished for it..the laws here are far to soft for most crimes..

The prisons are a doddle, have what you want...No deterant what so ever for most hence why they re offend and why people will 'do the crime' cuz they know they CAN 'do the time', I know its not like that elsewhere but it is here, always has been..

As for catching them and holding them to account?...probably never happen and if it did and we punished them, the punishment dished out wouldnt stop them doing it again Im pretty sure of that
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:46 PM
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It is a proven fact that capital punishment is 100% spot on at preventing recidivism. No one has or can prove that it does not do this.
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:17 PM
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I thought the 'shoot them' comment was tongue in cheek? Ah well.

Shooting copper thieves is obviously too harsh, but seriously, six good strokes with a cane across their bare backsides by a police constable is fitting...and then let them spend some time behind bars for good measure.
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:08 AM
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Glad some at least are now saying they don't literally mean killing them but are just saying it because it appears to be a very cool and mature thing. Probably on a much different, most likely philosophical, level than those guys stealing copper.

Well, I'm still getting the impression most would want to punish them harshly, for stealing objects of minor economical value and not hurting a single living soul with it.

Actually what's really giving me the chills is that those people to be remembered died in a war that started with similar bickering and crap. Over people's political and religious ideals for example.

It might be YOUR ideal to have these memorials preserved for eternity - I for sure can tell you I respect the fallen but I, and I'd bet them as well, could care less for a plate of copper. It's just really not a big deal and can be re-created in a minute or two.

Again, it's wrong to steal - but it's just so much more wrong to pretend this is the end of the world.
There are children and girls out there, abused or forced into horrible conditions. There are animals and people suffering from the plaque called humans. There are certainly a billion more important things to do than threaten the lives of copper thieves. If you want to do something good join greenpeace and make sure animals (we humans are animals as well) get treated fairly e.g. or go and help unstable countries, help people grow and develop. But sitting here and insulting those guys won't help makes it sound like you have double standards. The world will NOT become a better place if people will be punished or killed for stealing copper.

Oh and memorials are for those who forget - if you really are what you say then I'm sure you belong to the kind of people that won't forget - even without a memorial you wouldn't, now would you?
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Old 08-27-2011, 03:15 AM
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Well, I'm still getting the impression most would want to punish them harshly, for stealing objects of minor economical value and not hurting a single living soul with it.
Actually you are wrong. They hurt their own soul. Punishment saves them from themselves. Go take a hike troll.
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Old 08-27-2011, 10:16 AM
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Actually you are wrong. They hurt their own soul. Punishment saves them from themselves. Go take a hike troll.
Amen to that, Hallelujah brother!
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