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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-25-2011, 03:46 PM
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How does the why it got released the way it does effect anything now? Either they have the money/desire to continue working on it, or they don't. Publicizing an opinion on why it's that way won't change a thing, as all the warring and whining on here has shown. The good outcome is entirely dependent on the motivation of the developer to continue fixing, not looking to the past, but the future.


This is how.

7.Promise that everything will be fixed and that the game will be great. I know that the team in the past has done a good job trying to update the original IL-2 game, but this game has so many things to update and without good cash flow I don’t know if it will be done.

It is very relevant. It will take much more than motivation to fix this sim. Blinders on won't make it better either.
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Old 08-25-2011, 04:00 PM
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This is how.

7.Promise that everything will be fixed and that the game will be great. I know that the team in the past has done a good job trying to update the original IL-2 game, but this game has so many things to update and without good cash flow I don’t know if it will be done.

It is very relevant. It will take much more than motivation to fix this sim. Blinders on won't make it better either.
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Do you realize what state IL2 was when it was released? and other sims that we wont mention?

At what point now do YOU think that this game cannot get fixed when youve had an update from wait for it..the Dev team on what is being worked on..a complete engine overhaul, sound overhaul etc etc etc

I dont know about you, but if my intention was to chuck this game at the wall i wouldnt be winding people up more by continuing to talk trash about updates and posting here....id be long gone

Yes it will take more than motivation to fix this sim, it will take time and hard work, nothing to do with blinkers being on..

Youd have the same BS posts but about other things...porked FM's uber planes..better this and worst that even if this SIM was working 100%, been like that since the beginning of Forums and Sims and its not going to stop now..
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:05 PM
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Do you realize what state IL2 was when it was released? and other sims that we wont mention?

At what point now do YOU think that this game cannot get fixed when youve had an update from wait for it..the Dev team on what is being worked on..a complete engine overhaul, sound overhaul etc etc etc

I dont know about you, but if my intention was to chuck this game at the wall i wouldnt be winding people up more by continuing to talk trash about updates and posting here....id be long gone

Yes it will take more than motivation to fix this sim, it will take time and hard work, nothing to do with blinkers being on..

Youd have the same BS posts but about other things...porked FM's uber planes..better this and worst that even if this SIM was working 100%, been like that since the beginning of Forums and Sims and its not going to stop now..
First of all I'm not talking trash.

Secondly, I was just refuting the statement that the entire article was irrelevant. I want this game to get patched but I am not in denial of the facts. Your last statement about other posts is irrational.

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Old 08-25-2011, 05:14 PM
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First of all I'm not talking trash.

Secondly, I was just refuting the statement that the entire article was irrelevant. I want this game to get patched but I am not in denial of the facts. Your last statement about other posts is irrational.
Cant see anywhere I said you were speaking trash.. apologies if thats how you read it...

'Youd still be seeing........' does not refer to me saying YOUR talking trash, it refers to 'you would still be seeing'

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Old 08-25-2011, 05:35 PM
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Cant see anywhere I said you were speaking trash.. apologies if thats how you read it...

'Youd still be seeing........' does not refer to me saying YOUR talking trash, it refers to 'you would still be seeing'

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Ok, no worries. I thought you were insinuating I was talking trash about the game.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:10 PM
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Do you realize what state IL2 was when it was released? and other sims that we wont mention?
Yes, I remember it clearly, only positive memories about that release.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:16 PM
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Yes, I remember it clearly, only positive memories about that release.
Im glad though I suspect that your not talking about Il2 when it was first released?
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:29 PM
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no surprise from them... it's do as I say, not as I do..
I chose to put up a view once that didn't follow the herd, it was implied I was somehow anti-American because of my view by a few senior members regardless of the fact I have visited the US, have several US friends and have supported a US company through a web-site I run. I decided it wasn't worth the hassle anymore so just stopped visiting.
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I chose to put up a view once that didn't follow the herd, it was implied I was somehow anti-American because of my view by a few senior members regardless of the fact I have visited the US, have several US friends and have supported a US company through a web-site I run. I decided it wasn't worth the hassle anymore so just stopped visiting.
My experience as well. I criticized RoF's DM and the fan boy herd called my knowledge of WW1 into question. As if my knowledge of the history of the Great War had anything to do with rubber airplanes bouncing off of anything they crashed into.

I stopped going to SimHQ and uninstalled RoF, and have never looked back.
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:33 AM
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Goodness me. Only the most blinkered of the blinkered could possibly suggest the SimHq article was not more than fair.

And I think the criticism about review copies is entirely well founded. Refusal to give them out does suggest you have something to hide. Accusing SimHq of petulance because they didn't get a freebie is very silly and ignores the robust history SimHq has for frank and fearless reviews.

From memory 1c also muddied the waters further with SimHq by holding off on giving a long-promised interview to coincide with the release.

When the interview did come through at the very last minute it was very basic and vague, with no screenshots included.

That said - I do hope 1c can sort out Cod. This game has so much promise, but many of us are still struggling to trust these guys thanks to the colourful stuff that went on before the release.
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