Steve McQueen's 1970 Porsche 911S available for purchase

[baronWastelan]

Reassuringly typical, in that it looks simply divine yet is absurdly poorly packaged and disappointing to drive. It's exasperating that Alfa can't seem to nail this stuff.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/alfa-romeo/brera

What's that front-mounted smelly diesel burning water heater doing in a thread about the most brilliantly engineered, elegant and successful Sports-GT in history??

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by baronWastelan

Reassuringly typical, in that it looks simply divine yet is absurdly poorly packaged and disappointing to drive. It's exasperating that Alfa can't seem to nail this stuff.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/alfa-romeo/brera

What's that front-mounted smelly diesel burning water heater doing in a thread about the most brilliantly engineered, elegant and successful Sports-GT in history??

Lol, points of view man, you should try mine first, the stock car needs some tweaking with suspensions and remapping, and diesel engines might not sound exciting (mine actually does, the overrun is fantastic!), but have SO much torque and are way more reliable than petrol engines.. 0-60 in 5.8 and top speed in excess of 140mph. As for your beloved Top Gear, they destroyed a 911 some years ago..

To me a car is not just about performance, the looks (or "head-turning factor" as my friend says) are more important, but if I wanted a performing car I'd rather buy me a Nissan GT-R or an Ariel Atom, which both kick the rear end of ANY Porsche for less than half the price.. uh, and honestly, Porsche's look is appalling, nothing more than a "beefed up Beetle"

Unlike Alfa Romeo, Porsche is a (pretentious) brand statement, which doesn't seem to excel neither in looks or performance (or better, performance/price balance). At least Alfas look cool

One thing is for sure though: if Porsche had the Alfa Romeo designers, or Alfa Romeo had the Porsche engineers, we wouldn't need to walk anymore..

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

. As for your beloved Top Gear, they destroyed a 911 some years ago..

Top Gear is fun to watch, personally I love it as an enterntainment show, but if I was buying a car I wouldn't take Clarkson's advice, that's for sure. I mean, what does he really know about cars when you think about it? I like the guy, but he's just an entertainer.

Now Tiff Needell, rather boring as he may be sometimes, actually knows his stuff.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

Ah, Italian cars...beautiful to look at and great to drive...when not in the workshops!

I'll stick with German engineering personally.

lol true man (although it's way better than it used to be), it's all about feeling, and frankly nothing makes me feel better than driving an Italian car like this. IMHO German cars have no soul, they're cold machines, but then again, each to their own I say

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

Top Gear is fun to watch, personally I love it as an enterntainment show, but if I was buying a car I wouldn't take Clarkson's advice, that's for sure. I mean, what does he really know about cars when you think about it? I like the guy, but he's just an entertainer.

Now Tiff Needell, rather boring as he may be sometimes, actually knows his stuff.

Indeed, Clarkson is a clown, but a funny guy nonetheless

When it comes to cars I personally stick to what I feel right, not what they say on a magazine or a TV show: heck, I bought a 1965 Ford Mustang 5 years ago, it doesn't drive very well, it's not super fast, but man, what a noise, what a fantastic look.. to me cars are about emotions, not just performance!

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

lol true man (although it's way better than it used to be), it's all about feeling, and frankly nothing makes me feel better than driving an Italian car like this. IMHO German cars have no soul, they're cold machines, but then again, each to their own I say




Indeed, Clarkson is a clown, but a funny guy nonetheless

When it comes to cars I personally stick to what I feel right, not what they say on a magazine or a TV show: heck, I bought a 1965 Ford Mustang 5 years ago, it doesn't drive very well, it's not super fast, but man, what a noise, what a fantastic look.. to me cars are about emotions, not just performance!

Clarkson is a bit of a Tool...Top Gear bores the shyte out of me with its scripted banter...has some good rides but even thats not enough to temp me watching it

[TomcatViP]

Porshe (Turbo) are great cars. You can't figure what's in there beyond the brand and the blond guys with sunny glasses overreving the engine at traffic lights unless you just drive one (turbo).

But 1M$ for a 60's regular model just because some Steve put his butt inside...Is that a Women or gays only auction ?!!

By the way I hve never seen this movie. A thing I hve to do right now it seems

Regarding movies :
- Bullit
- Vanishing Point and
- Gone in 60 sec (original)
what your favorite ?

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Regarding movies :
- Bullit
- Vanishing Point and
- Gone in 60 sec (original)
what your favorite ?

Hard to say...I haven't really seen too many car movies. Blasphemy I know, but I never did see either Bullit or Vanishing Point. (Actually, I think I'll get these from Amazon tomorrow.)

I liked Duel, but that wasn't really a car movie. I enjoyed the first Fast and the Furious, but that got old very quickly with stupid sequels. Biker Boyz was complete rubbish.
Christine wasn't a car movie either (great movie though) so...I'm actually quite stumped!

[r0bc]

I think best car movies ever made are Grand Prix and Le mans

[TomcatViP]

Yeah the fast and furious as gone strange with retarded scenario and Il2ish physics. But still I hve seen each one of the episode.

Christine was great too. It had for long haunted my teenage dreams (the Plymouth not the girl )

But my choice of title was more in concordance of the 60's although they are still among the greatest movies I hve seen

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

lol true man (although it's way better than it used to be), it's all about feeling, and frankly nothing makes me feel better than driving an Italian car like this. IMHO German cars have no soul, they're cold machines, but then again, each to their own I say


When it comes to cars I personally stick to what I feel right, not what they say on a magazine or a TV show: heck, I bought a 1965 Ford Mustang 5 years ago, it doesn't drive very well, it's not super fast, but man, what a noise, what a fantastic look.. to me cars are about emotions, not just performance!

Well, German cars have soul but nothing like Italian cars I agree. I actually have a lot of time for Alfas...when I was a teen my mother owned three in succession and a family friend of ours is a lifelong Alfa fan, so I do understand what they're all about. I was just tweaking your nose a little.

I would love a '65 Mustang! To me, there is very little to beat the sound of an American V8, either small block or big block. I just love 'em. I once tried restoring a '68 Camaro, but I lost the energy, time, money and patience to see it through.

One day, money permitting, I'd love to try and restore another muscle car. But we'll see.