August 6 2011 Development Update

Originally Posted by Baron

Tree:


A while ago u asked Luthier "is Sli supported?", Luthier answered: "of course it is, why wouldnt it be" (like asking if headphones is supported hence Luthiers answer)

So far so good, you got the answer to your question.

Now u are wondering why Sli isnt working like it should for everyone (not the same thing as: is Sli supported) and THAT is a question you have to ask NVidia (and AMD/Crossfire). The answer to that is: because none of the company's have made a profile specifically for Cliffs of Dover, simple as that.

It works with global settings but its not working as well as it could, again, because there are no profile specifically for CloD. Its the same with virtually all games until NVidia and AMD see fit to add a profile. It was the same with IL2 Sturmovik. Sli and Crossfire has only become popular in the last few years and there where never a profile from either company that enabled this for IL2 Sturmovik. There where ways to get it to work. i personally had a hell of i time getting my 4870x2 to run even close to its potential simply because AMD felt they had better things to do than add a profile for a 8 year old game that no one outside the flightsim community ever heard of. Same thing now, NVidia and AMD are real guick adding profiles for Battlefield or Call of Duty or Crysis2 (witch took a couple of months iirc, same with DX11 in fact, Crysis was not released in DX11 if u wanna go into that debate to), a flight sim is another matter entirely.

I could be wrong but as far as i know it took RoF until May this year before even adding Sli/Crossfire support.

Read this if you somehow think CloD is the exception: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3330564 (Btw not a dig of any sort towards RoF, just want to show that supported and working Sli/crossfire is not as given as many seem to think. RoF is just one example)

Hi Baron, when i asked luthier that question it was during development, since then he has stated that SLi and Crossfire work. You dont have to have a profile from nvidia to make it work, if the game supports SLI you can make your own profile, its the same as applying FSAA to the game, people have tried this also through the nvidia driver overiding any in game settings, but like SLI it doesn't work becuase the game currently doesn't support it.
Some of the forum members have been trying already with varying degrees of success to make their own profiles, although to date Ive not heard any results from anyone using nHancer which is by far the best program to use for getting SLI to work.
Anyway cast your minds back to the original Il2, that had a profile for SLI with Nvidia drivers, but the profile was very poor, In order to get the best out of IL2 you had to make your profile where SLI was concerned. I guess that my real point is that Luthier has claimed that he left the 2D clouds out of the last patch because it was effecting SLI, the question I am asking is how does he know that? How did he test that with SLI, if like most are saying that SLI will not work without Nvidia, do you see where i am going with this. People are saying that SLI works of sorts but nothing like it should do, if thats the case give us the 2D clouds and fix SLI later.

[JG52Krupi]

Tree I dont have sli but I have seen more ppl say it's working than it isn't, so if you want something to complain about let's swap our gpus and you can see what it's like to get a drop in fps due to crappy xfire support.

However I am waiting patiently along with three over 5970 users all experiencing the same issues.

[Welshman]

xfire does work but its a little buggy ,only way i have got it working was to uninstall the CCC ( control center only "or whatever its called now" )

then use radeon pro and create a profile for COD , i get double the FPS than with 1 card, only issue is with the prop , though this could be tearing so i still have to test with V-sync on .

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Welshman

xfire does work but its a little buggy ,only way i have got it working was to uninstall the CCC ( control center only "or whatever its called now" )

then use radeon pro and create a profile for COD , i get double the FPS than with 1 card, only issue is with the prop , though this could be tearing so i still have to test with V-sync on .

Prop flickering was the same problem as in IL2 Sturmovik. AMD actually included a official fix in one driver, only to "unfix" it in the next.

[jimbop]

Just as well nvidia/ati hasn't spent time enabling support if the graphics engine is getting an overhaul. I suspect this is why there has been little emphasis on this since it probably became clear a while ago that more work on the basics was required before SLI optimization.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Maybe you should stick some of your red text under this, A man has to defend himself you know.

Your problem is that you take everything personally. I just pick a post to quote that fits the example-to-be-avoided at hand for the current thread and then address the issue globally, your case in this thread is no different: you just made a clear reference to keeping score in arguments (which leads to arguments for arguments' sake), you're going to get called out on it. It's happened to other posters too and they didn't take offence to it. If it's too much for you to take you can change your posting style accordingly and avoid similar incidents in the future.

At the end of the day things are very simple: there's some posting guidelines to follow, the ones who break them more often will get most of the flak and to be honest here, you're quite "prolific" in that regard

I'm not here to take sides but to call them as i see them and act in a manner proportional to each poster's behaviour.

I'm not on a power trip or personal grudge either since i could have just banned you straight away for breaking rule 14, but you're still here and i'm wasting time explaining how things work when i could just click a couple of buttons and go have a cup of coffee instead.


The tolerance displayed towards disruptive posters by the rest of the community is not to be perceived as a weakness but as a bonus and it's not to be taken for granted. If someone winds up people often enough then he's going to get some other poster replying in an aggressive manner when patience runs thin and a bigger share of the moderators' attention, it's not rocket science.

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