Lucas does Red Tails...

Originally Posted by choctaw111

I noticed a lot of "Hollywood" stuff in there. Why can't these film makers just keep things historical?

because most folks doesnt care about historical accuracy and aviation as we do....nor they are so deep into the subject (most of my friends couldnt tell the difference between bf109 and FW190)...then again, movie is for entertainment...documentaries are about history

[skouras]

agree

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

because most folks doesnt care about historical accuracy and aviation as we do....nor they are so deep into the subject (most of my friends couldnt tell the difference between bf109 and FW190)...then again, movie is for entertainment...documentaries are about history

That's correct, but there have been Movies in the past, which had entertainment and a historical base, not every WW1 or WW2 movie was crap like Pearl Harbor or U-571 or the Red Baron.

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

because most folks doesnt care about historical accuracy and aviation as we do....nor they are so deep into the subject (most of my friends couldnt tell the difference between bf109 and FW190)...then again, movie is for entertainment...documentaries are about history

They do care about accuracy. Most people watching historical movie want it to be historical, however they lack the knowledge for seeing inaccuracies. Historical movie needs to be accurate and have 'wow' moments. Unfortunately, it is way easier to do 'wow' without sticking to accuracy, so industry often forgets about it, because not many will notice that anyway.

Entertainment value is good thing, but if unreal things are pressed as real too hard, you end up with people thinking that every car explodes on crash

[Feathered_IV]

Having watched the trailer through a few times, I think this movie will be just more flag waving war-porn.

[Defender]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Having watched the trailer through a few times, I think this movie will be just more flag waving war-porn.

It was a trailer, trailers are never proper representations of a final film. Besides, they don't call them the "greatest generation" for nothing, so why not allow it some flag waving "war porn" wiggle room .

You watch Black Hawk Down or Band of Brothers, you could say the same thing (flag waving war porn). Ultimately it's about people and the unimaginable circumstances they have to face). Chalk up the fact the racial card is a MASSIVE factor in this film. It's a great story "based on true events".

I am curious to know how so many can bad mouth an effort to bring WWII to the mainstream simply watching a 2.5 minute trailer. If the film was released and they called P51's "Kittyhawks" then, well, you'd have an argument. Not from an "action" oriented movie trailer.

[VF101-jay]

I had read that Lucas started working toward this movie way back in the early 80's, if that is true I would have to assume this was an important project for him. With that in mind I will try to keep an open mind going into the theater to see this movie. My hope is that the somewhat unrealistic feel present in the trailer flight scenes was caused by the editing, I got the impression that spots may have been sped up to make the action seem more hectic. At this point I am thrilled to get any WW2 aviation movie, though I am glad that the one where Tom Cruise was going to play an American pilot that saved the British in his remake of the Battle of Britain was cancelled...that could have started a new war! LOL.

[Sternjaeger II]

this movie will be also used as propaganda for a certain racial group to join the Army..

Btw I would have expected Steven Spielberg to work on this, he was the one with the dad flying in B-25s in the Pacific, and one of his very first amateur movies he made when he was a child was done at his dad's base after the war.

[_RAAF_Mini]

Just to say i am not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread yet or not but that scene some of you are complaining about where the Mustang loops onto the 262 actually happend.

The pilot was Roscoe Brown from the flight which later earned the title The Longest Escort of The War in which the B-17s the flight was covering came under attack from 262's.
Brown developed his own version of the Split S in which instead of rolling straight down he would first climb to increase his speed in the dive in order to catch 262, at point of stalling he would either flip the plane or pitch down to start the dive.

He successfully shot down this 262.

Here is the story from Discoverys "Dogfights" told by the actual pilot. Thankfully the part of the story we need is right at the beginning of this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1vRcOZdWR8&NR=1

Cheers

S!
Mini

[Sternjaeger II]

nope, that's something completely different.

In the movie you see this plane at the brink of stall, tumbling backwards and shooting as it happens, which kinda defies a couple of laws of physics.