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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Your rating of COD right now.
10 25 10.25%
20 4 1.64%
30 18 7.38%
40 29 11.89%
50 42 17.21%
60 48 19.67%
70 53 21.72%
80 14 5.74%
90 7 2.87%
100 4 1.64%
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:59 PM
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Giving whatever marks you want is obviously ok (it's a personal opinion), however the posts that go into some detail are more useful than others to the onlookers.

I'm not saying there's unreasonable marks because the whole thing is highly subjective on many areas (for example, i agree with quite a chunk of Bryan 21cag's post, but i gave it a 70 while he gave it a 50), but it would help make things more believable for the rest if posters who deviate strongly from the majority took some time to say why.

What i'm trying to say is, if i see a 10 followed by a one-liner my mental alarm bells tell me "disgruntled customer wanting to raise some waves", just like if i see a 100 that equally lacks explanation makes me thing "knight in shining armor defending his favorite software no matter what": it seems like an emotionally charged judgement, emotions in such a process create bias and make us drift from objectivity in our results and as such, i remain thoroughly unconvinced by them.

It feels like the people who grade and justify their grades as such (ie, in a lacking manner) are primarily trying to get a reaction instead of giving a personal but objective-based judgement.

As for how the marks are chosen, i have a feeling the poll is about the game's current state, not how it was released or the team's managing of communication or the project in general. In other words, the game on an "as is" basis, how do we rank that.

I might be wrong, i don't know, it just seemed to me from how most of the people justified the marks they gave and the talk of having further such polls in the future that they were trying to get "snapshots" of the game's state at different points in development (which means judging the game on its flaws and merits at the current juncture for each such poll), so i went with it. Maybe it would be a good idea to clarify this for future polls.

Other than that, interesting discussion all around and i agree with the people who said things are not exactly terrible. As the poll goes thus far the little bars tell me things are "average towards good", which is a far cry from what we've been hearing by overly negative/positive posters. In other words, it seems we have a reasonable community majority for the most part even if they are not that loud on the forums and seem under-represented at times.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:24 PM
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Yep, that's exactly what i wanted this poll to be. A snap shot of COD right now by the members of this forum. nothing more nothing less.

When(or if) we get the next patch we can do the poll again.

Though to my eyes the average score is about 57% and to me that's a poor score for a sim thats been out for 6 months and had 4 patches.

Lets hope we see a marked improvement with the next patch.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:31 PM
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Yep, that's exactly what i wanted this poll to be. A snap shot of COD right now by the members of this forum. nothing more nothing less.

When(or if) we get the next patch we can do the poll again.

Though to my eyes the average score is about 57% and to me that's a poor score for a sim thats been out for 6 months and had 4 patches.

Lets hope we see a marked improvement with the next patch.
is that average taking into account the 10% and 100% numpty's?

Either way get on the syndicate server
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:30 AM
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I'm not saying there's unreasonable marks because the whole thing is highly subjective on many areas (for example, i agree with quite a chunk of Bryan 21cag's post, but i gave it a 70 while he gave it a 50), but it would help make things more believable for the rest if posters who deviate strongly from the majority took some time to say why.
LOL well to be fair in my mind 50 was the highest score i could give when I still prefer to play IL2 46 over it If I was to rate just its potential to be better then IL2 46 in the future It would have been quite a bit higher But from what the OP wrote I did not take this as his meaning

And if this poll would have went up the month after release then I may have been a bit more emotional about it but as it stands the money has long been spent and there is no competition out there for the same product type at the moment so for me the longer it goes on the easier it is for me to wait and be objective about the fixes

That said I can not fault anyone who is still holding a grudge as I am equally capable of doing just that....... LOL its been 5 years and I still wish evil things on Dell for the Bollox they pulled on me and that's even after they finally did the right thing lol ....took em bloody long enough ..... but I digress... oops

I must say that even if these numbers do not really reflect every flight sim gamer in the world, kind of like polls that get taken at election time for me i was surprised at how many people, of the ones that participated fell into the 50-70 zone If i would have guessed the outcome prior I would have put a lot more people closer to each extreme rather then smack in the middle very interesting

Now,.. after reading the update I was very please to find that all the major bits on my list are proposed to be included so if all goes well the good news would be that my next score would not just be higher, but higher because I would then have fewer reasons left to not play CLOD over IL2 46 and that would be a very good thing indeed (with the exception of offline content of course which I know will be a long time coming)

Again excellent thread It combines my favorite things about these forums having a chuckle at the slap fights, interesting information and different opinions

Cheers all
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