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Old 08-02-2011, 09:00 AM
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Amazon is the way forward, only £5 + P&P! (Assuming he's in the UK...)
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:33 AM
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Hi Bat,

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Amazon is the way forward, only £5 + P&P! (Assuming he's in the UK...)
Probably you're right - but IL-2 1946 has long become pyramid-ware (correct idiom?) in the big stores, so it should be much cheaper there - and no P&P...

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PS: When I bought it at Amazon.de it was 9,99 Euro plus a 5 Euro fee for personal age-verification by the postman. No joke: It had/has a 12+ youth protection...
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:07 AM
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Probably you're right - but IL-2 1946 has long become pyramid-ware (correct idiom?) in the big stores, so it should be much cheaper there - and no P&P...
I suppose one of the big computer stores may have copies of it still, but I doubt they'll be cheaper. My local PC World still has copies of Forgotten Battles for £5!

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PS: When I bought it at Amazon.de it was 9,99 Euro plus a 5 Euro fee for personal age-verification by the postman. No joke: It had/has a 12+ youth protection...
Haha that sucks.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:40 PM
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Game and Gamestation still sell'em cheap;

http://www.game.co.uk/Games/PC-Games...329699/?s=1946

You can download, or just pop into the store and have a look in the "2 games for £10" section...that's were I picked mine up a few years back. I'm old school and have always preferred to have physical CD/DVD in my hand, but each to their own.

You can get IL2:1946 just as cheap on Amazon or Ebay...it has tonnes more maps, aircraft, missions, and playable via Hyperlobby for online gaming.

My mate just did exactly the same thing and bought the original IL2: Sturmovik, even though I told him not to ...the main aim of us playing was to play online together...he sold his older copy and downloaded 1946 problem free from Gamestation, which is version 4.07m out of the box.

Then, as the guys have written above, you'll have to patch to v4.08m, then 4.09, then 4.10m, and finally v4.10.1m (there is a mega patch out there but I've never tried it).

Best advice is to download the patches and Hyperlobby client (hyperlobby will be the first answer when googled)...and burn them all to disc to save you having to do it all again in future.

Next bit of advice (which some may disagree with) is to play around with the Full Mission Builder (FMB)...this will save you flying for 25mins to target practice, or just to get shot down at the first sign of the enemy. This is a helpful site:

http://www.il2-fullmissionbuilder.com/index.php


Then you've got mods and extras, but I wouldn't worry about them until you're bored of the original content, which will be in about another 10 years

Happy flying.
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:40 PM
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It takes less computer to play the original IL-2 but by today's standards only the video card needs to be better than mainstream to run 1946 well. Mobo video is still generally too weak for either version.

If you want to play online then be sure to get 1946, either download or DVD.

Once you have it installed (check that it runs), copy the install folder as a backup. Each patch you add, check and then update the backup. Once you get to the latest official patch, your backup will be current, make a special copy of that even if on a USB stick (4.10.1 is about 6 gig).
Anything happens, you can copy that folder back and it will run -- look Ma, no registry BS! You want to mod the game, copy the folder as a new name and mod that copy, no problem. Especially if you bought the download, that copy is your insurance. This is true for all versions of IL-2.

IL-2 really needs rudder control. Look into 3-axis ("twisty") joysticks... well 4-axis with throttle. There are cheap ones out there, in time you'll want something better. If you can, get decent rudder pedals but avoid the real cheap ones.

And then there's Track-IR which ain't cheap but... when you turn your head, the view moves. There's a thing called Cachya that is almost the same and there is software IIRC called Newview that turns the view some in the direction you move your joystick. Otherwise you will want your joystick to have at least one 8-direction hat.

From there, it's more money for more and/or better gadgets; buttons, hats, rotaries and sliders. If you -really- get into the game then you will want extra goodies! The sky's the limit on controllers though, so people have even made setups you can't buy at any store. There have been pictures posted on forums clear up to full simpits and one in Greece that has the player seat and monitor in a gimbal mount, when the plane is tilted the seat is too.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:42 PM
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Thanks for all your really helpful advice. I hadn't planned on buying the game at all, it really was a complete impulse buy! After a couple hours struggling with keyboard controls, I've decided to invest in a Logitech extreme 3d pro. Not going to get 1946 yet, but i'll certainly bear it in mind if I get into it.
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Old 08-03-2011, 12:58 AM
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Most of what you see here is the view from people who have been playing the series for years and not just started. We've been through a good deal of learning curve and tend to discount it while you're facing the whole thing.

What you've got is plenty really. It's not arcade at all but really that means the game is not a pushover. There's more about real flying that applies to this series than to most other combat flight sims with only the newest edging it out, *as far as I know*.

One thing to keep in mind. The default speedbar units are kilometers per hour speed and meters in height. You can change that to mph/ft or knots/ft, but I forget what the toggle is, sorry! If you stick with kph (German and Russian plane IAS gauges show KPH) then keep in mind that 200 is seriously "just took off" slow and 300 is still not fast for WWII fighters, it's 186 mph. 400+ is good combat speed by mid-WWII.
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