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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-30-2011, 07:08 PM
r0bc r0bc is offline
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I can never understand anti Steam comments.
This game has problems and the least of them are Steam.
Steam isn't spyware...you always own it and they can't take it from you...its auto updated...you can login to your account from any PC anywhere and access your games....you can download it as many times as you like.....it don't get scratched or lost.....you can back up to DVD's if you feel the need to do so and I can go on.
I dunno...to each his own.
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:17 PM
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I can never understand anti Steam comments.
This game has problems and the least of them are Steam.
Steam isn't spyware...you always own it and they can't take it from you...its auto updated...you can login to your account from any PC anywhere and access your games....you can download it as many times as you like.....it don't get scratched or lost.....you can back up to DVD's if you feel the need to do so and I can go on.
I dunno...to each his own.
I feel that it is important to have the choice to use Steam or not, why? Because it's a third party service that you have no control over whatsoever, except some rudimentary options.
What happens to the game if the Steam system suffers a breakdown, hacker attacks, get bought?
Tying in a lot of games to Steam could be dangerous as you so to speak put all eggs in one basket.
Sure, there are some benefits, but don't believe for one minute that the service is created for the consumer, most of the benefits obviously belong to Valve and the publishers of the games to maintain control over their product even after you've bought it.
And that is not in no way in service of the consumer.
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Old 07-30-2011, 08:13 PM
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Sure, there are some benefits, but don't believe for one minute that the service is created for the consumer, most of the benefits obviously belong to Valve and the publishers of the games to maintain control over their product even after you've bought it.
And that is not in no way in service of the consumer.
I imagine that the anticheat, content/patch distribution system, worldwide sales, anti-piracy (serial check), online chat and voice, etc... that Steam provides is quite an incentive for a developer to use Steam.

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Plus their asking price is way too high for a program that is essentially only rented and can only be run with permission and be terminated at the whim of a third party (Steam).
Look through the license of just about any videogame you've bought in the last year and see how many you own (usually 0 unless you are into open source stuff) versus how many you've been licensed (generally all recent pay videogames). It seems to be the way things have bean heading for a long time...

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Old 07-30-2011, 09:55 PM
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Look through the license of just about any videogame you've bought in the last year and see how many you own (usually 0 unless you are into open source stuff) versus how many you've been licensed (generally all recent pay videogames). It seems to be the way things have bean heading for a long time...
Exactly

I'm far more concerned about my DVD's then the games I on Steam.
I have damaged MS FSX DVD's. I have the discs, cases and product keys but the only way I can reinstall is to buy new ones or download illegal ISO's from torrents so I really hope Flight is distributed through a similar service.
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