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[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

So what's your gut feeling on this...do you think that there are any cheater's on-line?

Since it seems we might be having a civil discussion I'll chime in. My gut feeling, yes, there is cheating going on. There was cheating going on before this whole debacle though. Is there MORE cheating since the mods, maybe, but if there is I think it's still a very small amount. It's possible that it may increase but I doubt it. Most people who play this sim are into it for a specific reason, be it flight simulation (as this is one of the best on the pc), or history buffs. Either way most are in it for realism and acuracy, those that are in it mearly to beat the other guy either don't stay in long or are not worth fretting over as they are very sad individuals indeed. I may be a little pie-in-the-sky about my opinions but I think the vast majority of people who play il2 don't want to cheat, heck, most want it HARDER. Those that want to cheat will be rooted out and won't have anyone to play with, they'll go back to thier shooters and cheat there eventually.

To review, yes there is cheating, yes it's possible to make more cheats with the mods, no it is not a plague of cheating, people will not automatically cheat just cause they can, those that want to cheat cheated before and will cheat after.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

Since it seems we might be having a civil discussion I'll chime in. My gut feeling, yes, there is cheating going on. There was cheating going on before this whole debacle though. Is there MORE cheating since the mods, maybe, but if there is I think it's still a very small amount. It's possible that it may increase but I doubt it. Most people who play this sim are into it for a specific reason, be it flight simulation (as this is one of the best on the pc), or history buffs. Either way most are in it for realism and acuracy, those that are in it mearly to beat the other guy either don't stay in long or are not worth fretting over as they are very sad individuals indeed. I may be a little pie-in-the-sky about my opinions but I think the vast majority of people who play il2 don't want to cheat, heck, most want it HARDER. Those that want to cheat will be rooted out and won't have anyone to play with, they'll go back to thier shooters and cheat there eventually.

To review, yes there is cheating, yes it's possible to make more cheats with the mods, no it is not a plague of cheating, people will not automatically cheat just cause they can, those that want to cheat cheated before and will cheat after.

i dont have a problem with anything you said there, the main issue is that it has created 2 opinions in the il2 community

group 1: doesnt want to do anything about the problem, many are even here loudly claiming this doesnt create any problems whatsoever, and if it affects other users negatively they dont care. all they want to do is keep tinkering with it like a mechano set.
group 2: wants to close pandora's box again so that the problem doesnt get worse over time, as is already the case now where week by week more aspects of the game are altered. this groups prime concern is that they want to have the same unaltered files/features used by all people that fly online, when they join open servers with other il2 users on it from all around the world.