Very short development update

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

You really need a life, comparing a development update with a holocaust joke is a good indicator for "girlfriend urgently required".

Aaaargh! *facepalm* Beowolf, it was an example of an out of place joke, don't take it literally. Got a girlfriend btw, don't see the relation with needing a life, a girlfriend and the explanation of a joke out of place situation.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Aaaargh! *facepalm* Beowolf, it was an example of an out of place joke, don't take it literally. Got a girlfriend btw, don't see the relation with needing a life, a girlfriend and the explanation of a joke out of place situation.

Great, if you expect other people to know what you mean, then you wont't have any problems to understand how other people mean it as well.

"Out of place" jokes, btw, are a very subjective matter. For me this update was great fun and carried more of a message in it then others obviously were able to recognize. And it certainly has much more character in it then a clinical update with points to be fixed and release dates included.

I suppose how you take it is a matter of character. Being the "glass is half full or half empty" kind of person. Do not expect to be able to push the "glass is half empty" attitude onto others just so.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Great, if you expect other people to know what you mean, then you wont't have any problems to understand how other people mean it as well.

"Out of place" jokes, btw, are a very subjective matter. For me this update was great fun and carried more of a message in it then others obviously were able to recognize. And it certainly has much more character in it then a clinical update with points to be fixed and release dates included.

I suppose how you take it is a matter of character. Being the "glass is half full or half empty" kind of person. Do not expect to be able to push the "glass is half empty" attitude onto others just so.

the point is that what Luthier has posted here was no update, but yet another stunt to stir the arguments and gain time.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, because I believe that everyone is free to express their opinion, but I'm not standing for people being disrespectful of my opinion, showing an arrogance that is in line with the devs at the moment.

..still didn't get what you were talking about re. needing a girlfriend and getting a life though..

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

the point is that what Luthier has posted here was no update, but yet another stunt to stir the arguments and gain time.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, because I believe that everyone is free to express their opinion, but I'm not standing for people being disrespectful of my opinion, showing an arrogance that is in line with the devs at the moment.

..still didn't get what you were talking about re. needing a girlfriend and getting a life though..

I simply go by Einstein "Stupidity is doing the same thing again and again and still expecting a different result". If you consider that arrogance, so be it.

And if you want to have a more elaborate explaination in regards to getting a life, then consider spending valuable life time on spamming a forum for nothing but a development update and your subjective understanding of what such an update should include.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I simply go by Einstein "Stupidity is doing the same thing again and again and still expecting a different result". If you consider that arrogance, so be it.

And if you want to have a more elaborate explaination in regards to getting a life, then consider spending valuable life time on spamming a forum for nothing but a development update and your subjective understanding of what such an update should include.

I am just defending what I believe in and answering people who have questions and opinions different than mine, in a polite and respectful manner, without offending them, unlike you.

How's that for arrogance?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I am just defending what I believe in and answering people who have questions and opinions different than mine, in a polite and respectful manner, without offending them, unlike you.

How's that for arrogance, Sherlock?

My apologies if you felt offended. I just took the same route as you did with "over the top" comparisons. I thought you knew what I ment. Sorry if you took it too seriously.

But consider this. You blamed the devs of buying time to fix this game. Going this route, you should be perfectly happy they released the game in the first place loooong before it was ready for that.

Or let's put it in a different way. How, do you think are regular development updatesgoing to fix this game any faster?

I will repeat that I personally would prefer regular updates myself. I, too, think that spending ten minutes to write down a forum post is not too much an effort and would please lots of folks that simply want to have a bit more clarity after waiting years for the IL2 follow up. However, I won't lose a night's sleep if this is not going to happen and one day we get a huge update bringing this game to a playable state at once (and even that is relative, as I have already logged 150 hours with CoD).

Let's bring it down to the core of the question. Do you think Maddox Games is working on fixing the game, or aren't they?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

My apologies if you felt offended. I just took the same route as you did with "over the top" comparisons. I thought you knew what I ment. Sorry if you took it too seriously.

It's ok.

But consider this. You blamed the devs of buying time to fix this game. Going this route, you should be perfectly happy they released the game in the first place loooong before it was ready for that.

Of course I am happy, but this is not the point. They were late on their delivery with Ubisoft, remember what Oleg said? The cause for this can be anything: poor managing, little resources, stuff that needed to be redone from scracth.. I dunno, not my problem, and again, I'm happy they delivered the game as it is, but for the love of honesty and respect, tell the community that the money they're spending is a long term investment on a yet to be completed alpha. Il-2 was nowhere near this bad when it originally came out, and the bad reviews they received with CoD have done them no good.

Or let's put it in a different way. How, do you think are regular development updatesgoing to fix this game any faster?

It won't, but that's not my interest. Regular updates are useful to the community to know on which feedback aspects they can help and to show the newcomers that the game is far from dead, there's a lot of work going on and a very professional one. When you want to go pro, you need to behave like a pro.

I will repeat that I personally would prefer regular updates myself. I, too, think that spending ten minutes to write down a forum post is not too much an effort and would please lots of folks that simply want to have a bit more clarity after waiting years for the IL2 follow up. However, I won't lose a night's sleep if this is not going to happen and one day we get a huge update bringing this game to a playable state at once (and even that is relative, as I have already logged 150 hours with CoD).

Let's bring it down to the core of the question. Do you think Maddox Games is working on fixing the game, or aren't they?

Oh no, of course they are, but they're leaving it all to an oblivious state of "it's fixed when it's fixed" which, again for the laws of Public Relations, marketing and common sense, it's not a good idea, especially when you sell for good an unfinished product.

Do you understand my point better now?

[Hunden]

[QUOTE=Bewolf;315586]I simply go by Einstein "Stupidity is doing the same thing again and again and still expecting a different result". If you consider that arrogance, so be it.



Nascar anyone?

[robtek]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

the point is that what Luthier has posted here was no update, but yet another stunt to stir the arguments and gain time.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, because I believe that everyone is free to express their opinion, but I'm not standing for people being disrespectful of my opinion, showing an arrogance that is in line with the devs at the moment.

..still didn't get what you were talking about re. needing a girlfriend and getting a life though..

I think your arrogance lies in the assumption that your interpretation of Luthiers post is the only true one.

It isn't, it works only for you in private, not in the public!

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by robtek

I think your arrogance lies in the assumption that your interpretation of Luthiers post is the only true one.

It isn't, it works only for you in private, not in the public!

I keep on repeating is my opinion, which is driven by common sense, and again, apparently the idea of having regular and effective updates is the will of the majority here, you are the minority.