Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

leaving out quite a bit of historical facts on purpose from the original webpage aren't we now? Why doesn't that surprise me? You are so busted....

cant you even count to 10 using your own fingers ?

the problem with the unrestricted hacking in il2 is not about what people like to add or change, it is that suddenly you have 1 group flying online with the legitimate il2 specifications, and another group is on the same full real server but has added gun sight gyro's to planes that shouldnt have it, increased their visibility by removing the cockpit, added mirrors in planes that dont normally have them, increased dot sizes for distant aircraft etc..

you really still cant see that argument ?

so lets see how many fingers you need for this
1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online, then there is a level playing field and no cheating
2) people can now with hacked files join full real servers and remain undetected, using completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc)
3) nobody cares what the hack kiddies get up to late at night playing with eachother as long as they only do it in their own home, and dont harm any animals or other humans

you only needed 3 little steps to understand it so you only need one hand, and you can keep doing with the other hand what you have been doing all along so far

[fly_zo]

.... bla, bla,bla..... insults when proven wrong .... so typical

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

.... bla, bla,bla..... insults when proven wrong .... so typical

? proven wrong about what

if you dont understand what is posted in the thread, try not to participate in the conversation because you are making a fool of yourself. you only need to follow 2 little steps

1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online in full real servers, then there is a level playing field and no cheating

2) if some people can now join full real servers with hacked files and remain undetected, and use completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc) then you have one group who is cheating and gaining an unfair advantage

simple really, aint it ?

you only needed 2 fingers to follow that one, just like at Agincourt

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by zapatista

? proven wrong about what

if you dont understand what is posted in the thread, try not to participate in the conversation because you are making a fool of yourself. you only need to follow 2 little steps

1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online in full real servers, then there is a level playing field and no cheating

2) if some people can now join full real servers with hacked files and remain undetected, and use completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc) then you have one group who is cheating and gaining an unfair advantage

simple really, aint it ?

you only needed 2 fingers to follow that one, just like at Agincourt

or...
1. everyone uses the same modded files, which gives things like the gyro gunsite to late mark spits, rear view mirrors to planes that did actually have them (seen many photos of mustangs with mirrors - ones like the spit, ones like you get on motorbikes etc), reskinned pits, better object visibility yadda yadda, and unadulterated fm/dm/wm. then you have the level playing field. surely there is some way to load the plane files server side so that everyone gets the same deal?
2. there has still been no proof posted (unless i missed it...) that the soundmod works in chkruntime=2 servers. someone install and use fraps to record modded files, and then logging into a chkruntime=2 server. not already being in server and using something they shouldn't have, that doesn't really prove the point of secure servers being vulnerable.

and for what it's worth my shooting is better without the gyro sights, so i wouldn't call them idiot proof.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

or...
1. everyone uses the same modded files, which gives things like the gyro gunsite to late mark spits, rear view mirrors to planes that did actually have them (seen many photos of mustangs with mirrors - ones like the spit, ones like you get on motorbikes etc), reskinned pits, better object visibility yadda yadda, and unadulterated fm/dm/wm. then you have the level playing field. surely there is some way to load the plane files server side so that everyone gets the same deal? .

err you now going to try and tell me there is one single person is controlling all the hacks that are out there, and that this same person is smart enough to produce a brand new anti hack lock that will put the geni back in the bottle ?

i havnt hear that type of optimism since the flower power days. it's a nice idea but it aint going to happen, we've entered the realm of the absurd there.

Originally Posted by Lo0n

there has still been no proof posted (unless i missed it...) that the soundmod works in chkruntime=2 servers.

yes you missed it, dont expect people here to keep going 40 times over the same things. there is no controversy there.

[Baron]

back the fishtruck up for a minute.


Lets see if i got this straight.


A sertain person with well known sentiments regarding this topic (pro modder) doesnt like where a sertain threadh is going or maby he knows its soon to be dead (Sound mod threadh) so the said person decides to start a new threadh (this one) where he ask (how polite) people to post proof, or how it actually is: to put up or shut up?

The said person then assumes the role of judge, jury (with the help of some trusted allies) and exicusioner, or moderator if u will (no offense intended towards real moderators) in examening and validating posted evidance. Nedless to say, nothing of the evidance posted (despite the surreal conditions under wich its done) is, in the end, valid. (what a shocker)

The well known pro modder puts up this "request" (how polite) here on 1C official forum as an added flavour?



Did i understand situation correctly?



Did we all move to the Twilight Zone and i missed the 1C announcement?


Maby someone went over the deep end......or lost theire marbels...or maby someone went over the deep end BECAUSE he lost his marbels?




BTW. Not intended as an insult...just a question, keep your eyes on the ?-mark. (to avoid future missunderstandings)




P.S. Zapatista, u know it, i know it, heck even some modders know it, problem is that we are using way to many bigg words trying to explain how it in facts is...it only confuses the situation. Sad but true.

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Baron

back the fishtruck up for a minute.


Lets see if i got this straight.


A sertain person with well known sentiments regarding this topic (pro modder) doesnt like where a sertain threadh is going or maby he knows its soon to be dead (Sound mod threadh) so the said person decides to start a new threadh (this one) where he ask (how polite) people to post proof, or how it actually is: to put up or shut up.

The said person then assumes the role of judge, jury (with the help of some trusted allies) and exicusioner, or moderator if u will (no offense intended towards real moderators) in examening and validating posted evidance. Nedless to say, nothing of the evidance posted (despite the surreal conditions under wich its done) is, in the end, valid. (what a shocker)

The well known pro modder puts up this "request" (how polite) here on 1C official forum as an added flavour.



Did i understand situation correctly?



Did we all move to the Twilight Zone and i missed the 1C announcement?


Maby someone went over the deep end......or lost theire marbels...or maby someone went over the deep end BECAUSE he lost his marbels?




BTW. Not intended as an insult...just a question (to avoid future missunderstandings)




P.S. Zapatista, u know it, i know it, heck even some modders know it, problem is that we are using way to many bigg words trying to explain how it in facts is...it only confuses the situation. Sad but true.

with spelling like that, i think big words are way out of your league.

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by zapatista

err you now going to try and tell me there is one single person is controlling all the hacks that are out there, and that this same person is smart enough to produce a brand new anti hack lock that will put the geni back in the bottle ?

i havnt hear that type of optimism since the flower power days. it's a nice idea but it aint going to happen, we've entered the realm of the absurd there.




yes you missed it, dont expect people here to keep going 40 times over the same things. there is no controversy there.

ah missed this as well then -

Originally Posted by DerAlte

That is older than me!!! Man, that is just changing a certain .ini to read only after you have flown a Lerche.......... PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTT.

Get with it dood. NO PROOF, just a TROLL, maybe a certain fishing person here?

DerAlte

so you mean the lerche thing... apparently not proof of cheating. so, no i did catch that. and all the youtube clips you showed. someone, if they are so adamant about the cheating and getting into chkruntim=2 servers, post a movie clip showing it exactly. until then this is stuff that could be done on an unprotected server, and could simply be down to paranoid ideation.
hell maybe it is optimistic, beats being a "sky is falling, we're all doomed". and christ, the average age of most people playing this sim should be enough to think that cheating someone is a hollow victory, not as satisfying as doing it on a level field, no? and of course i'm not so dense to think that one person is controlling it all. there are probably groups that could do it, the community itself if it wasn't so intent on eating itself for example. but noooo, far more productive to start a b*tchfest witch hunt after the event, than to see what can resolve it.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

ah missed this as well then -

so you mean the lerche thing... apparently not proof of cheating. so, no i did catch that. and all the youtube clips you showed. someone, if they are so adamant about the cheating and getting into chkruntim=2 servers, post a movie clip showing it exactly. until then this is stuff that could be done on an unprotected server, and could simply be down to paranoid ideation.
hell maybe it is optimistic, beats being a "sky is falling, we're all doomed"

you really aint the smartest kid on the block are you ?

you'r either playing the fool here thinking we aint smart enough to see through your feigned ignorance, or you aint smart enough to find the information yourself in the kiddie hack forum you been posting for the last weeks ?

which of those 2 is it ?

checksum 2 dont work no more, and it hasnt for months. the horse has bolted, case closed.

[stalkervision]

zapatista;31494 cant you even count to 10 using your own fingers ?


Apparently your the one with a real learning deficiency here not me since you can't even understand a simple web page like this one. That or your a balded face lier. Which is it?


zapatista... he problem with the unrestricted hacking in il2 is not about what people like to add or change, it is that suddenly you have 1 group flying online with the legitimate il2 specifications, and another group is on the same full real server but has added gun sight gyro's to planes that shouldnt have it, increased their visibility by removing the cockpit, added mirrors in planes that dont normally have them, increased dot sizes for distant aircraft etc..

stalker..One can download these mods or not. These gunsites and mirror mods you just mention I have found not very useful in the heat of battle. The other "mods" you mention I haven't seen on the site you quote but don't understand. I believe you must be a very very poor flier to worry about these "mods" as much as you do...


zapatista..so lets see how many fingers you need for this

Stalker.. Repeating shop worn insults seems to be your forte. At least I can count using my fingers. Your are as goofy as they come..

zapatista.. 1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online, then there is a level playing field and no cheating

Stalker.. You really are the crummest flier around aren't you? Anyone can use these mods buddy or aren't you aware of this? I suggest you download them all proto because you obviously need them all and please stop constantly whining like the little girl about them will you sally?

zapatista...2) people can now with hacked files join full real servers and remain undetected, using completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc)

Stalker...You could download all these options and it still wouldn't help you. I suggest the "idiot proof gunsite" first for you to really see if it is truly "idiot proof" Your the perfect test case..


zapatista..3) nobody cares what the hack kiddies get up to late at night playing with eachother as long as they only do it in their own home, and dont harm any animals or other humans

Stalker.."hack Kiddies"? You really are a disgrunteled hacker aren't you? What is the matter didn't pass "hack 101" ?

zapatista..you only needed 3 little steps to understand it so you only need one hand, and you can keep doing with the other hand what you have been doing all along so far

Stalker..

and what does one do with the other hand zapatista since apparently I am speaking to a real true expert here in one hand, hand management?