hello luthier!

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Vittuuntunut

From Luthiers recent sticky: "The game ... is currently a #1 top selling Simulation title on steam!"

Now, how cool is that! I just can´t wait for all of them new customers come rioting here. The US release is motivated with nothing but pure desperation.

New people are always welcome.

"We are already working on a sequel as we continue to support and improve Cliffs of Dover."

In the previous sentences he explained how small of a team they are. It´s great that they have time to work on a sequel, while the core game is still in it´s present, hideous state.

It has been explained before, but it seems you did not understood. 1C tam can`t be blamed for your lack of comprehension. The game is currently in good state, yet it takes some more work. The progress has been there since the release.

I really don´t care about the roadmaps or any kind of information anymore, ´cause this all is getting rather silly. The actions taken by the devs, publisher, anyone related to the production of this game are really shameful.

You don`t care about this game at all. Yet you somehow continue to roam these forums and complain. I suggest you leave rightaway.
The devs are supporting CloD and will continue to do so.

I personally would like to see some coherent results with these patches, some constant progress. Every patch so far has been just desperate back-and-forth attempt to fix what now seems to be pretty rotten core.

I`m sorry if you`re not satisfied with the progress. Majority of users reported progress both in compatibility and playability of this game. This progress can be described as three steps forth, one step back. But you ofcourse only see the bad side.

Who can seriously defend this kind of bad business? I mean, really? "They´ll fix it, you´ll see" - explanation is not enough anymore, nor is "this is the only WWII-sim coming for ages, so you gotta defend it"

Bad buisness...Well it`s not the best, but since this is the only such flightsim on the market it would be clever to support it until it goes full steam ahead. If you don`t like it, you`re free to leave.

And the very selective censorship in this forum is making me sick. Same guys can say whatever they want, however rude without any consequences, while some "known troublemakers" get banned or get their posts deleted at first instant, EVEN THOUGH they didn´t break any of the forum rules. Yes, criticisms are pretty much repetitive, but then again, so is this bad business model. They´ve done it again.

Censorship is the same word the boohoo-I have no life- please -fix -this -game -or -I`ll kill myself whiners can come up with. Your constructive abilities end right there.

Have a nice day.

[furbs]

Ignoring carguy's waffle...

Bliss im not sure it does mate, ive set my in the CP and not noticed anything...could you post a before and after screenie please?

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by furbs

Ignoring carguy's waffle...

Bliss im not sure it does mate, ive set my in the CP and not noticed anything...could you post a before and after screenie please?

That would be good Bliss..i didnt think it made a difference?

[ATAG_Bliss]

furbs,

Trust me it does. But I went all hog wild with it at turned up every global setting to highest quality and highest AA/AF. If I looked on the wings (zoomed in) from the cockpit, I could see very tiny jaggies before. Mind you this was completely zoomed in. Now if I do the same, the wing line is perfectly straight. Same goes for virtually all other surfaces I can see from the pit. Do I know how much AA/AF actually is doing anything? No. But w/e I did in the control panel made it work. Now if only I could get SLI to work!

I'll try to make some before and after screenies though.

Edit: all you bastages post really fast

is carguy_ running for the community manager seat here?

[Vittuuntunut]

Originally Posted by carguy_

New people are always welcome.



You don`t care about this game at all. Yet you somehow continue to roam these forums and complain. I suggest you leave rightaway.
The devs are supporting CloD and will continue to do so.

New people are always welcome! *profanities*
To what? "Please be cheated!"

Is it impossible for you fanboy-lot to understand that most of pissed off people are so pissed because they paid more than just 50 € to play this game? They built monster-rigs and still can´t get game to work in the way that it is even remotely satisfying.

Oh yeah, I forgot that there are thousands of people that fly over london, fighting intense dogfights, all maxed out with 200+ FPS! I forgot that it´s your ûbermagic-rig that sets the standards for who is allowed to complain and who isn´t.

As you can clearly see there are manymanymany people who are very displeased about the games performace. What makes you think that they are all trolls who don´t own the game or don´t care about it? Is it because the game works for you?

I think it´s close to criminal to sell this broken game twice. To "welcome" new people to this "stfu, your rig just sucks!" / "it will be fixed!" mess. Even though this game works for some, there still are too many people suffering from poor performance.

I think this constant stream of "whinig" should really be here and stand as a warning. You shouldn´t be able to sell the crap and get away with it

Let alone do it twice!

Is this really so hard for you to understand Carguy?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Vittuuntunut

New people are always welcome! *profanities*
To what? "Please be cheated!"

That is simply not true. If this game came out as is, with support discountinued, then you would be right. The support however stands and continues.

Is it impossible for you fanboy-lot to understand that most of pissed off people are so pissed because they paid more than just 50 € to play this game? They built monster-rigs and still can´t get game to work in the way that it is even remotely satisfying.

Do you even realise that pinning a fanboy label on me only shows that you can`t put up with my posts? It`s the easiest way, but rarely effective.

I have explained, along with other patient people that it`s not much money. A date costs roughly as much. The cost of whatever PC you built to run this game doesn`t concern any of us at all. You didn`t check how the game runs, you didn`t gather any information. You built a 2000€ rig and are pissed. You`re pissed at yourself and you need to find someone, anyone, that you think is responsible to make you feel better. Not the way to go. Keep your anger to yourself.

Oh yeah, I forgot that there are thousands of people that fly over london, fighting intense dogfights, all maxed out with 200+ FPS! I forgot that it´s your ûbermagic-rig that sets the standards for who is allowed to complain and who isn´t.

Oh, so you DO understand some of the stuff that`s being posted by those who acutally try to HELP others. No 200fps here but given the modest rig that I have setting a few switches lower helped. All still with visual quality unsurpassed by anything else on the market. I also bought this game for multiplayer and I can`t fly online, but I know all this will come. In the meantime I play other games, and mostly LIVE to do other , more important things in life. For example today in the morning I traveled 50 miles to hospital to take my cousin who had a surgery knee operation, went back , set him up in his house and here I am writing at the forums. He won`t be able to play basketball no more.
You seem to have only the PC in your life. That is not good, you should change it. Maybe do something for other people for a change.

As you can clearly see there are manymanymany people who are very displeased about the games performace. What makes you think that they are all trolls who don´t own the game or don´t care about it? Is it because the game works for you?

Many? I see less than 10 people spamming these boards with mindless bickering/ They do NOTHING constructive. Actually I don`t think most of them are trolls. Maybe Tree_UK who`s clearly bent on killing this game before it gets fixed. Others? "No-lifers" who act like 12 year old brats mad over their NES not working.

I think it´s close to criminal to sell this broken game twice. To "welcome" new people to this "stfu, your rig just sucks!" / "it will be fixed!" mess. Even though this game works for some, there still are too many people suffering from poor performance.

Excellent. You have come to use the word criminal to describe the bahaviour. Really? Then maybe you should go to whatever customer right department you have in your country and report it. I`m sure they will listen.
.....or maybe they will laugh their a$$e$ off.

I think this constant stream of "whinig" should really be here and stand as a warning. You shouldn´t be able to sell the crap and get away with it

Let alone do it twice!

Is this really so hard for you to understand Carguy?

You can do this in a polite way. Really you can. You don`t have to post false information, you don`t have to swear, you don`t have to attack those who are satisfied with this game. And nobody will ban you for it.
Is that so hard to understand?

[RocketDog]

Originally Posted by carguy_

That is simply not true. If this game came out as is, with support discountinued, then you would be right. The support however stands and continues.

Is this true? One of the worst things about CloD is the terrible daytime landscapes that just don't look anything like the real South of England (and I live there and I fly over it in gliders so I know what it should look like in daytime). The colours in CloD are just wrong. Yet there is no indication that the devs even recognise there is a problem to solve.

Maybe I've missed a post somewhere? If not, it looks like they are proposing to dump their fanatasy cartoon version of England on us and just walk away.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by RocketDog

Is this true? One of the worst things about CloD is the terrible daytime landscapes that just don't look anything like the real South of England (and I live there and I fly over it in gliders so I know what it should look like in daytime). The colours in CloD are just wrong. Yet there is no indication that the devs even recognise there is a problem to solve.

Thank you for giving me something to answer to. I wouldn`t call the landscape exactly terrible. I voted in the poll that it needs improvements because I trust in what Englishmen are saying. I`m sure the problem is recognized, mostly because in last patch we got the change of colors in readme listed. If it`s still too bad for you then I`d wait. There are other problems which need to be fixed first.
But surely, this doesn`t stop or even diminish my fun with this game to be honest.

[Vittuuntunut]

Originally Posted by carguy_

... I also bought this game for multiplayer and I can`t fly online, but I know all this will come. In the meantime I play other games, and mostly LIVE to do other , more important things in life. For example today in the morning I traveled 50 miles to hospital to take my cousin who had a surgery knee operation, went back , set him up in his house and here I am writing at the forums. He won`t be able to play basketball no more.
You seem to have only the PC in your life. That is not good, you should change it. Maybe do something for other people for a change.

Oh, please! Of course there are more important things in life and much worse things can happend than ending up buying a bad videogame (and sorry ´bout your cousin). That is self-explanatory.

BUT, when I want to discuss or do something about, for example, the third world poverty & hunger, I do it elsewhere. If I want to discuss the lack of human rights somewhere, I go to Amnesty-forums. If I on the other hand want to discuss about the bad product I bought and possibly warn others not to make same mistake, I come here. SINCE I BOUGHT THIS GAME AND EXPECTED IT TO BE EVEN REASONABLY GOOD OR REASONALBLY QUICKLY PATCHABLE!

This forums is for this game, it´s pros and cons. So far the cons seem to outnumber the pros for many, and for many (like me) , patches seem to do little good. AND what is most important, the marketing "strategy" of 1C is laughable and should not be tolerated.